If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

West Somerset Railway General Discussion

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by gwr4090, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2015
    Messages:
    9,219
    Likes Received:
    7,276
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Thorn in my managers side
    Location:
    72
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Whats the arrangement for the provision of a 'standby' diesel?
     
  2. Ian Monkton

    Ian Monkton Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2011
    Messages:
    946
    Likes Received:
    994
    Location:
    South Somerset
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I think I'm right in saying that the arrangement is that the DEPG should make an 'instant start' loco (ie. diesel-electric, not hydraulic) available at an hour's notice, to be crewed by DEPG at weekends, and company drivers when there is no-one available at Williton.
     
    Yorkshireman likes this.
  3. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2014
    Messages:
    4,486
    Likes Received:
    5,045
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Comfy chair occupant!
    Location:
    No moaners please!
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    My only experience was when the suspicious UXD was found next to the track at Watchet. It took about an hour to arrange for a diesel loco from Williton to rescue us. Excellent service.
     
    Ian Monkton likes this.
  4. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2015
    Messages:
    9,219
    Likes Received:
    7,276
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Thorn in my managers side
    Location:
    72
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Why cant a diesel-hydraulic be 'instant start'?
     
  5. Rob P

    Rob P New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2008
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    72
    Maybach engines must be pre heated and therefore cannot be instant start. Sulzer engines, i.e those in the 47 and 33s can be started from cold.

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
     
  6. robinguarddriver

    robinguarddriver New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Messages:
    144
    Likes Received:
    154
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Somerset
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Usually the class 33 or 47 are available to the company to use on a as reqd basis, so when one is reqd in a emergency it will be whichever is in traffic and which is the easiest to get out of the yard at williton! This is normally the 33.
    Robin F.
     
  7. robinguarddriver

    robinguarddriver New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Messages:
    144
    Likes Received:
    154
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Somerset
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    This is also how i understand it is, handy for me being classed as a DEPG and company driver!!!!
    Robin F.
     
  8. AnthonyTrains2017

    AnthonyTrains2017 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2014
    Messages:
    2,237
    Likes Received:
    918
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Swanage has a nothing but bulleid gala next year, image thst on a line like the WSR
     
  9. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2014
    Messages:
    4,486
    Likes Received:
    5,045
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Comfy chair occupant!
    Location:
    No moaners please!
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I would rather not! A sort of spam can festival I suppose.:D
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2016
  10. martin1656

    martin1656 Nat Pres stalwart Friend

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    17,692
    Likes Received:
    11,307
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    St Leonards
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Nothing but Bulleid? does that include the coaches, thats going to be interesting, hello C&W Horstead Keynes, can we borrow every runnable bulleid coach you have please , hello MHR, , :) its a pity the 4 sub isnt mainline passed , run it on an eastleigh -wareham shuttle what else Bulleid designed is there?
     
  11. aldfort

    aldfort Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2009
    Messages:
    1,923
    Likes Received:
    4,237
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Cardiff
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Great to see some more progress on 9351. Test fitting of axleboxes is underway. Pictures on Steve's site.
     
    Paul Kibbey likes this.
  12. baldbazza

    baldbazza New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2014
    Messages:
    191
    Likes Received:
    538
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT geek
    Location:
    miles away
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    A new-build Leader perhaps? That'd be an interesting project...
     
  13. WishIHadAName

    WishIHadAName New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2013
    Messages:
    196
    Likes Received:
    169
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I think its better at Swanage on a SR line. WSR may be longer but at least Swanage can run an intensive service on a gala so people can ride behind them all. Better than long gaps between trains like at WSR.
     
    34098 likes this.
  14. Jim O'Brien

    Jim O'Brien New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2014
    Messages:
    102
    Likes Received:
    109
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Morayshire, North of Scotland.
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    But firing it may not be a permissible practice under present-day Health & Safety legislation? The fireman used to get rather warm, if contemporary reports are to be believed.

    (Or is someone present here better informed on this topic?)
     
  15. Maverick

    Maverick New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2014
    Messages:
    103
    Likes Received:
    468
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Can I remind everyone of the Christmas Market taking place on the platform at minehead on the 24th November. It organised by the Station Master and Friends of Minehead Station (Foms). All money raised goes to the upkeep of the station. I'm sure everyone will recognise the good work being done on the restoration of the original fencing on the seafront. All funded by Foms.

    http://westsomersetrailway.vticket.co.uk/product.php/131/christmas-market-at-minehead-station
     
    Yorkshireman likes this.
  16. Steve

    Steve Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2006
    Messages:
    11,978
    Likes Received:
    10,190
    Occupation:
    Gentleman of leisure, nowadays
    Location:
    Near Leeds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Operating any steam loco can fall foul of H & S if you want it to. Fortunately, most people, including HMRI, take a pragmatic view of things.
     
    Black Jim likes this.
  17. Black Jim

    Black Jim Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2009
    Messages:
    468
    Likes Received:
    166
    you can get warm on any loco! I had a scortch mark on my leg that went through overalls & jeans for years on one of the 45s . We had a trainee so I had to stand in the middle after firing all the way. A few years ago now , we had the Columbian coal? A long time before the Welsh.
     
  18. Maunsell907

    Maunsell907 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2013
    Messages:
    882
    Likes Received:
    1,966
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The footplate was certainly adjudged very hot and there was limited space for the fireman to ply his trade. I believe the original intent was to either use an automatic stoker or oil firing. Either would have permitted the large area grate originally fitted rather than the comparatively small one finally used during the trials of 36001.

    I have always thought the outline drawings of an 0-6-0, effectively a Q1, with air smoothed casing, seemed to offer almost the perfect loco for the WSR. ie reversible (Bulleid's reported running of a Q1 at 75 mph tender first is oft recounted), powerful (capable of up to ten coach trains), rugged, 5' 1" coupled wheels (ideal for 25 mph passenger running) excellent for good acceleration. You could probably build three for the cost of the recent ten year overhaul of 1472 (4472, 103 or 60103).

    Not very 'God's Wonderful Railway' but definitely a new build :)

    Michael Rowe
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2016
    Matt37401 and Yorkshireman like this.
  19. Jeff Price

    Jeff Price Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2013
    Messages:
    715
    Likes Received:
    1,409
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Greeting Jim,

    Still way out west??

    Jeff Price
     
  20. Black Jim

    Black Jim Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2009
    Messages:
    468
    Likes Received:
    166
    Hello Jeff! Yes , hear in Penzance again ow foe three years. Been keeping up with your're trials & tribulations on here though!
    Interesting thought of Maunsell's post above about a Q1 . I always thought the ideal WSR loco was the one we used to have, the 80,000 tank, with the undeniable bonus that they've got a rocking grate & hopper ashpan !
     

Share This Page