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S.D. Holden B12 On Highland Main Line

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  1. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    A loco well away from its home operating base

    1535 Moy on a Troop Train Highland Main Line November 1939 S.D. Holden B12

    https://railway-photography.smugmug.com/LNERSteam/1908/The-SD-Holden-B12-GER-Class/i-9kCfgV2

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    johnofwessex Resident of Nat Pres

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    Don't forget though that post Grouping some were built by the LNER for service in Scotland, and because of their very high route availability were popular for ambulance trains in WW2, one was even based on the S&D for a while
     
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    I'm puzzled by this photo as it does not look right to me. I'm sure a troop train would carry a Class 1 head code and I doubt a GE section Class 2 white disc head code would be carried on the LMS Highland main line. I'm also not sure that the location even looks like Moy despite what the name board says - was someone trying to confuse all those German spies?

    What do others think? Was this even a Scottish based loco?

    Peter
     
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    Wasn't Thomas Moy a coal factor based in Colchester? Would seem more likely to me that this is an East Anglian location and the "Moy" represents the coal merchant rather than a station name. @flaman might shed some light ...

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    I think that this photo was not taken in Scotland but in East Anglia . The B12 is carrying a GE style white disc headcode indicator and 'Moy' was an East Anglian coal merchant. The Moy sign appears to be located in the goods yard, not on the station platform.
    Also, loco carries a Westinghouse air pump and air braking connections, I don't think that the Scottish allocated loco were air brake fitted.
    The only loco number visible is 5, when I have some spare time I will check the numbers of the Scottish allocation.
    My money is that the loco is somewhere on the Great Eastern section of the LNER.
    Chris
     
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    As has been said the loco is a B12/3, which did not work in Scotland, it is carrying a GE line headcode disc and the train consists of ex-GE stock. As @Jamessquared says, Thos. Moy was a coal merchant, based in Colchester, but with concessions at many ex-GE stations. They were a sizeable firm, with their own wagon works at Peterborough.

    So it's definitely in East Anglia, though I'm afraid that I can't identify the precise location.

    By the way, I would love to obtain one of those "Moy" enamel signs for our museum. There must have been scores of them, but I've never been able to find one:(.
     
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    Evidence from the world of philately: http://cosgb.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/thomas-moy-limited.html
     
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