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Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 73129, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. andrewshimmin

    andrewshimmin Well-Known Member

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    Any gala with two A3s, I am there!
     
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    Duty Druid Resident of Nat Pres

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    Carry on dreaming unless you've got a few million to spare in the bank!......................... :Saywhat:...................... :)
     
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    Surely Gordon is an A1. (Gresley A1 that is.)
     
  4. RalphW

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    Why should there have been a problem with the reducing weight with a second tender? Surely all tenders change weight during a run, up to 5 tons of coal goes and at various times the water weight will vary by 15+ tons.
     
  5. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    Not some misidentification/re-wheeling of a Longmoor 2-10-0?
     
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    Ahh yes, the tender envy storylines. Even in the innocent world of Thomas, bigger/more is better and tender anxiety is a real issue.:p

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    What is the comparative weight of a tender full of water, compared to the weight of a standard tender.

    The tender was said to have suffered from wheel flats, and was largely unused since.

    Also the weight of the fully loaded water tender was likened to a full mk1, so take it, and as well as increasing weight behind the drawbar, you are reducing your passenger capacity.

    That is probably a more relevant reason it is not used.....
     
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    Victor Nat Pres stalwart Friend

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    A handsome machine, it looks good, but I prefer it as is today, double chimney and deflectors
     
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    So wrong on this was you there when the brakes were set up no. FISH7373 81C NFP
     
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    richards Part of the furniture

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    So why wasn't it used, Fish?
     
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    5000 gallons of water is about 21 tons, so maybe another 10 tons using the coal space, 5 tons more than the conventional tender. Perhaps Mr Riley could sort the brakes out, he's got the experience....;)
     
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    That's fine, was quoted in the railway press, then was discarded, have you any idea why it is not used now then???

    The weight used in dragging it around, together with increased times in re-starting a train, due to the extra weight, and the lost coach is probably near the mark.
     
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    As i said there is no problem with the brakes again so stop this , all i am going to say is due to the water space and they no what the problem is so that`s it ,why itis not used FISH7373 81C NFP
     
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    Hang on a minute I'm not accusing anyone of anything, just making some comments and a small reference to Ian Riley sorting out the tender brake problem they had during it's test runs on the ELR. If you are going to get worked up please check you are attacking the right person.
     
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    I think so better not get into the argument on what Henry is.
     
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    [QUOTE="bryemycaz, post: 1432111, member: 7909" ] better not get into the argument on what Henry is.[/QUOTE]
    Now there was an accountancy rebuild if ever I saw one!
     
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    It's what happens with nationalisation when they started sending Doncaster engines to Crewe for overhaul!

    Tom
     
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    Well sorry ralphw problem is to much weight at front of the over hang on the front bearings thats the problem if look at it. FISH7373 81C NFP
     
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    But Sodor wasn't nationalised. Sir Topham Hat being stingy with his money.


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    And was that leading to the flats experienced????
     

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