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Rare Loco Discovered in Zumerzet!

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 32110, Dec 2, 2015.

  1. Jimc

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    I don't suppose they had the slightest intention of attempting to reproduce a specific class, and just as well too because they'd have failed abjectly. I imagine the intention was just to produce something that looked reasonably germanic, which it does.
     
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    Robert Powell was in "The 39 Steps", also shot at the SVR. "The Seven Percent Solution" starred Nicol Williamson as Holmes and Robert Duvall as Watson.

    Edit: beaten to it.
     
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    Was this the same film being shot outside M Shed in Bristol earlier this week? There were German and Russian marked crates on the dockside.
     
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    Yes, I believe it was the same film.
     
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    I've driven a 50 (PKP TY2)

    Lovely machine but it gives me the creeps
     
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    Why? A Ty2 is a DR 52 by the way. PKP gave the designation Ty5 to the DR 50.
     
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    The reflectors look green in the picture against a black loco?
     
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    The Class 50's remaining on the post-war DR, as well as the 50.35 (Reko), 52's and 52.8 (Reko) carried a variety of different-shaped smoke deflectors, as did the few surviving 50's in Austria. Metal was at a premium in the DDR, and the DR had to make-do with what it could bodge. The Polish versions of 42's, 50's and 52's had an even greater assortment of deflectors. The (West German) DB managed to fit its locos with uniform "Witte" deflectors, but some of the post-war "new" locos had handrails on the deflectors, and some not!
    (See my "Beiträge" on Drehscheibe-online.de -Historische Forum)
     
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    They feel rather strange, I suspect its down to their origin & involvement in the holocaust
     
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    There was a picture of a captured Jinty at Dresden in the 1950's posted on this site in the past.

    What I would love to know is what DR crews thought of it
     
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    Going completely O/T but a question relevant to the above. Middleton has two foreign built locomotives: A DSB (Danish) Hs 0-4-0WT built in Germany and a Belgian Cockerill 0-4-0T. Both are from the late 19th Century and both are 100% imperial (BSW) in their threads and fastenings. Was this the norm? If not, I would have expected at least the Danish loco to have been changed to metric as so much on it is standard DSB fittings and practice. Were other European steam locos generally imperial or metric?
     
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    Don't the Europeans still use Imperial pipe threads to British Standards? I think the odd ones out are the Americans who have their own standards, though still in inches.

    A website www.boltscience.com has the following to say about threads for fastenings:

    In 1864 in America, William Sellers independently proposed another standard ...

    Around the same time metric thread standards were being adopted in continental Europe with a number of different thread flank angles being adopted. For example the German Loewenherz had a thread flank angle of 53 degrees 8 minutes and the Swiss Thury thread an angle of 47.5 degrees. The standard international metric thread eventually evolved from German and French metric standards being based upon a 60 degree flank angle with flat crests and rounded roots.
     
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    Metric pipe threads are indeed the British Standard pipe thread simply renamed in millimetres and are of the Whitworth form with a 55 deg angle and various threads per inch.
     
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    MV Balmoral was involved with this filming too.
     
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