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WCRC Licence Suspended

Rasprava u 'What's Going On' pokrenuta od 5944, 2. Travanj 2015..

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  1. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

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    I assume you didn't read the adjudication paperwork that NR published on line last year following the lineside fire spat. It had every piece of personal information visible (addresses/email addresses/telephone numbers/mobile numbers etc) for various WCRC contacts. I don't think document management and the protection of personal data is a strong point of NR.

    I suspect that Mr Smith and all are WCRC are not that bothered what NR have done, bigger fish to fry and all that!
     
  2. Christopher125

    Christopher125 Part of the furniture

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    I don't see any reason for David Smith to be unhappy nor why that would be a valid reason not to disclose it.
     
  3. spicer21

    spicer21 Guest

    I agree, and we touched on this in the smartphone thread. It does seem that these things are no longer valued, but when you've been taught to use punctuation, and you then read a document like that which doesn't use any, it does kind of cry out at you.

    As for the rights and wrongs of the document being made public, it does seem rather odd I agree, but presumably it's understood by parties like TOCs who deal with Network Rail, that in certain circumstances, communications like these could be made public. The document delivers a positive message, and is quite complimentary so it may have been welcomed by Mr. Smith ?
     
  4. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    If I had written it, the only additional punctuation would have been commas after "Dear David" and "Your sincerely". What other punctuation would you expect? Commas after every line of the address? I would use those only in an address all on one line, such as one might quote in the body of a document. The letter correctly doesn't say (for instance) "the 1st April" though that is how one would speak it and how dates often are written nowadays.

    (Apologies for continuing this particular thread drift.)
     
  5. John Stewart

    John Stewart Part of the furniture

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    If operations had been resumed without publication of the basis for such, there would have an outcry. There is always going to be tension between commercial confidentiality and confidence-building transparency. In my time in the public service there was often a three-way pull involving commercial confidentiality, a statutory duty to disclose and a statutory duty to protect sources. It's not easy to operate in those areas but I recall one humorous episode. A police officer sent me a consultation reply advising "discussion with PC Xxxxx Yyyyyyy (Special Branch)". Once reminded that his consultations had to go on our website he hurried sent a revised version!
     
  6. polmadie

    polmadie Well-Known Member

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    That's what I was taught all those years ago. Still do it in all my letters.
     
  7. andalfi1

    andalfi1 Well-Known Member

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    It's amazing 5, steamless, weeks and already this thread, has, degenerated into, a discussion about, punctuation, instead of shouting from, the rooftops YES it's , over ! Hell, it's harder doing it wrong :D think I'll leave it to the master ? ;)
     
  8. richards

    richards Part of the furniture

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    Yes - of the many things which may have lead to the suspension of WCRC, the quality and/or quantity of punctuation wasn't one of them.

    Now, moving on ...
     
  9. John Stewart

    John Stewart Part of the furniture

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    If they'd used a full stop at Wootton Bassett that would have helped.
     
  10. richards

    richards Part of the furniture

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    So who's going to apply for the permanent "Head of Safety" role at WCRC?

    Any Natpres members up for it? We would of course expect daily updates on the forum about the recruitment process, interview, and then your subsequent "safety leadership strengthening" procedures.

    Richard
     
  11. richards

    richards Part of the furniture

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    Wonder if the driver had butterflies in his colon when he saw the red signal?
     
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    As the suspension letter was published, I think it would have been most improper not to publish the letter revoking the suspension.

    Steven
     
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  13. spicer21

    spicer21 Guest

    Something closer to a stampede of Rhino I suspect with consequent contractions of the colon.
     
  14. spicer21

    spicer21 Guest

    Suspect many are naturally cautious about expressing too much jubilation just yet. Let's just wait a month or so, before breaking out the bubbly !
     
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  15. 47406

    47406 Well-Known Member

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  17. Fred Kerr

    Fred Kerr Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    Presumably because the original suspension notice was given wide publicity so - in fairness - the raising of it should be given equal publicity
     
  18. Fred Kerr

    Fred Kerr Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    It's NOT over - note that there will be a review in 3 months time so one assumes that monitoring will be in place during the interim. The statement that operations will be built up over a time period also suggests that monitoring will be used to confirm the rate of progress. I agree that WCRC are on the right track but I venture to suggest that there are still TSRs to watch out for.
     
  19. mike1522

    mike1522 Long Time Member Friend

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    What about Orr?
    What shall their ruling be?
    Shall they take into consideration that the suspension was lifted ahead of schedule?
     
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  20. henrywinskill

    henrywinskill Well-Known Member

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    Bloody hell I have to agree with you Fred(for once)
     
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