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21B replied to the thread Rother Valley Railway.
Now that’s my kind of train!! ;)
Oct 6, 2026 at 8:52 AM -
21B liked Jamessquared's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
In making this a reply about price, you have completely missed the point of @burmister comment which as I read it is about value. He wrote which looks like it is about price, and you have answered accordingly - in effect "we are a long line...
Oct 5, 2026 at 4:06 PM -
21B replied to the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
I think you missed my point which was properly examine everything and started arguing the individual items. I am sure you are right about the infrastructure, you may be right about other things too, though not running to Whitby would almost...
Oct 5, 2026 at 8:11 AM -
21B liked Sawdust's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
I recently travelled by public transport to Embsay, with the intention of catching a train to Bolton Abbey in time for the LNERCA members train, only to find they had no spare seats. Fortunately Steve Middleton invited me to travel as his...
Oct 4, 2026 at 10:05 PM
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21B liked Steve's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
A couple of pages back now I did a simple calculation based on 300,000 visitors/year and turnover of £10m. The figures were deliberately chosen; the former because I understand it has been achieved in the past on more than one occasion,...
Oct 4, 2026 at 10:02 PM -
21B replied to the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
Commercial focus. Invest in new events and ideas to reach different audiences. Build both premium offers and value prices offers. Ensure that these offers require a sensible amount of equipment. Reconsider running to Whitby/how you run to...
Oct 4, 2026 at 6:07 PM -
21B liked 35B's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
On the contrary, I think visitor numbers are an essential measure of performance because they help qualify the pricing strategy. NYMR has been demonstrating both aspects of the Laffer Curve in recent years and, I suspect, had to lower fares more...
Oct 4, 2026 at 5:56 PM -
21B replied to the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
I don’t agree with this assertion, because to be correct two things would need to true. First that volunteers are not at least a part of the community which charitable objects seek to serve. Second that ipso facto the interests of members and...
Oct 4, 2026 at 10:39 AM -
21B liked lostlogin's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
I think he was making the general point that income earned from operating a train service did not, in general, cover the costs of operating train service. There might be a few exceptions, Snowdon Mountain Railways, Vale of Rheidol, Dartmouth, but...
Oct 4, 2026 at 8:02 AM -
21B replied to the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
To be clear I actually agree with you about the primary purpose, and my thought excercise was actually demonstrating that it wasn’t a very attractive model to charge golf club fees. I don’t think that is practical, but the thought exercise has...
Oct 3, 2026 at 8:18 PM -
21B replied to the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
To be brutally honest, I don’t think all heritage railways will be sustained. Those that are most likely to do so will have these characteristics imho: 1. highly engaged membership and a strong positive relationship with the management structure...
Oct 3, 2026 at 5:49 PM -
21B replied to the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
As a further thought, if railways exist primarily for the benefit of the community then it follows that the volunteer is saving the line money. If the railway is primarily there for the enjoyment of the members including volunteers, then maybe...
Oct 3, 2026 at 5:42 PM -
21B replied to the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
I agree. That’s rather the point, but the thought exercise was about what would be needed. And the unlikely prospect that 1000 people could be persuaded to part with £1000 each per year. Now would 500 people part with £2000 or 200 with £500? I...
Oct 3, 2026 at 5:32 PM
