MHR Restorations and Overhauls

With regard the T9 - although there were some T9s that were superheated while still in LSWR livery, 120 wasn't one of them (SR livery June 1925; superheated May 1927).

As for the T3, I think any restoration is improbable, not least on the MHR.

Firstly, the boiler is said to be in quite poor condition. When she was restored in 1948 for the Waterloo centenary, she was only put into light steam: I suspect, but don't know, that the safety valves were adjusted down to about 110 or 120psi, just enough to potter about Waterloo and a brief mainline run to Micheldever, but not enough for serious service. So any restoration would almost certainly involve serious boiler work.

As for service potential, she has rather low tractive effort of about 17,600lbf, roughly the same as the Ivatt 2MT, but with much less adhesion. Indeed, when the subject came up on NatPres a year or so ago, I think the T3 had the lowest factor of adhesion (adhesion divided by tractive effort) of any loco I could find - lower even than a Schools class, but with the additional proviso that to pull a worthwhile load, she would be working much closer to her maximum capacity than a Schools would. So I suspect rather prone to slipping, and probably limited to a small load. Couple that with a potentially expensive overhaul, and the case doesn't start to stack up.

Finally, thinking specifically about the MHR - with a predominantly BR ethos and mostly heavy Mark 1 carriages, it's hard to see visually how a loco representative of a class that was, with a couple of exceptions, extinct by the early 1930s would fit in.

The dreamer in me would love to see 563 running. The practical operating person feels that putting a relatively small loco, quite possibly light on its feet, needing a major overhaul on a line with heavy carriages and steep gradients probably isn't going to stack up financially ...

Of course, if Anthony wants to prove me wrong, I'd be only too happy to hear!

Tom

 

Hasn't the T9 worn the LSWR in preservation?

To be honest I don't think the T3 would be a suitable locomotive for the Mid Hants but it would be would make a great gala visitor. I can see her being more at home on the Bluebell railway. A LSWR is something people would like to see even if the liveries aren't authentic to the actual locomotives.


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Ah yes, I forgot that - when originally preserved, she had an anachronous LSWR pea ("royal") green livery and ran some mainline trips - would have been early 1960s.

I guess she could legitimately wear that livery as representative of an era, albeit early 1960s rather than the Edwardian livery she purported to be in!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/16749798@N08/3743924580/ (not my photo).

Interestingly, Bradley claims that 120 was restored into Urie livery, but the photographic evidence contradicts that, to my mind.

Well, at least we have an LSWR carriage - AFAIK, the only LSWR carriage in running order on a preserved line.

Tom

 

And we would've had one too if that damn fire hadn't happened!

 

Yeah, that was definitely a bad day.

Tom

 

The Urie volume of Bradley's Locomotives of the LSWR references a T9 being timed at 91mph near Axminster. Apparently the same observer also timed a Maunsell S15 at 84mph in the same location.

If it's a remotely authentic livery, 120 will look good in it.

 

91mph on the T9 must have been a much nicer experience than 84mph on the S15. 84??? Wow that must knocked their fillings out.

 

At least restored to an incorrect LSWR livery she looked a damn sight better than she does now. Nothing wrong with the lovely Southern olive green she ran in during the late 80s and early 90s though. A very elegant colour scheme that suited an elegant pre-grouping locomotive, unlike the death livery she currently wears. How about 120 and 53 both in Southern olive green, now that would be a nice sight...
Daniel

 

God I hope not. I think that's Tyesley. I remember going on a "Merrymaker" to an open day there with Cheltenham and Lord Nelson present iirc. Still in as left service condition ex store....possibly en route from Leicester to Preston Park?

 

Not strictly MHR but am I right in thinking the Uries S15 506 is due back in steam next year

 

31806 is now back in action.

 

In what way is 506 no MHR??

506 is definitely a "it will be ready when it is ready". The new front section of the frames needs to be welded on, and then the reassembly can be started. The boiler is happily almost complete apart from the tubes which wont be done until the end can be seen on the frames so there is no wasted "ticket". Will it be next year? Maybe, but probably toward the end I would guess.

 

Thanks for the update I remember talking to a couple of Urie Society chaps whilst sheltering from the rain at the MHR autumn gala who said late 2014/early 2015. When I saw her a couple of weeks ago I thought that estimate would need revising.

 

Hi Everyone,

Don't see the point in starting up another thread. Anyone who is thinking about visiting the MHR this coming Sunday May find this to their liking. According to the timetable the first service train off Alresford will be at a earlier time of 10.15. The same goes for Alton with the first service off at 10.25. Because of the bus rally Sunday will be a three train service. Locos rostered for Sunday 30850,30925 and Hampshire Unit 205025.


http://www.watercressline.co.uk/shopimages/products/extras/Alton Bus Rally Sunday 20th July.pdf

 

Because of the new signalling at Ropley we can run bi directional through either platform there now, which means we can leave stuff in either of the platform roads if necessary.

 

According to the MHR website 31806 is rostered this weekend but 73129 says differently. Does anyone on here know what is rostered this weekend as I was hoping to get down to ride behind 31806 for the last time.

And before anyone says I will be ringing the MHR before I travel

Thanks

Matt

 

Probably won't be much help, the info office can only go by whats listed on the web.......so unless that gets updated at some point tonight..........

I'm sure the U would run this weekend for those wishing to ride behind her one last time, otherwise there might be a lot of upset people........

 

It would be good if 73129 clarified the loco roster situation on here.