If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Pledge your Allegiances

Discussie in 'Steam Traction' gestart door Hurricane, 12 mrt 2014.

Pagina 2 van 3
  1. martin butler

    martin butler Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    16 jun 2008
    Berichten:
    3.440
    Leuk Bevonden:
    388
    For me also no contest, 34007, clean or dirty, and which machine has cost the less to restore and keep in working order, but then 34007 was not in the care of a certain gentlemen who shall we say tends to like spending other peoples money and ends up as a wreck ?
     
    martin butler, 13 mrt 2014
    #21
    Drysdale en THE MELTER vinden dit leuk.
  2. S.A.C. Martin

    S.A.C. Martin Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    31 aug 2010
    Berichten:
    5.620
    Leuk Bevonden:
    9.452
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Asset Engineer (Signalling), MNLPS Treasurer
    Locatie:
    London
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer

    So advanced that the majority of its class and its larger brethren were rebuilt into conventional 3-cylinder Pacifics like the one on the left...
     
    S.A.C. Martin, 13 mrt 2014
    #22
  3. Bulleid Pacific

    Bulleid Pacific Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    14 apr 2007
    Berichten:
    4.033
    Leuk Bevonden:
    1.101
    Beroep:
    A Thingy...
    Well, that is precisely why they were so advanced. Materials technology had yet to catch up with some of the concepts incorporated. Many of the issues that plagued the types in service have only recently been ironed out with improvements in materials etc. I'm sure there's a bit more to go in the combination lever department, as a couple have sheared in the last ten years. This defence also indicates where my allegiances lie. Nothing can touch them on account of distinctiveness and innovation in spite of their foibles.
     
    Bulleid Pacific, 13 mrt 2014
    #23
  4. Muzza

    Muzza New Member

    Lid geworden:
    16 feb 2006
    Berichten:
    180
    Leuk Bevonden:
    185
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Locatie:
    Mareeba, Qld, Australia
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Love them both!
    Both designers have GNR/LNER heritage.
    I wonder how OVSB's designs may have ended up if built at Doncaster.
     
    Muzza, 14 mrt 2014
    #24
    Drysdale en Spamcan81 vinden dit leuk.
  5. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

    Lid geworden:
    15 apr 2006
    Berichten:
    16.552
    Leuk Bevonden:
    7.905
    Locatie:
    1012 / 60158
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Probably a bit like the grubby one :)
     
    Martin Perry, 14 mrt 2014
    #25
  6. nine elms fan

    nine elms fan Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    18 sep 2012
    Berichten:
    2.439
    Leuk Bevonden:
    855
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Retired
    Locatie:
    Wessex
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Mr Bulleid learnt his trade from Mr Gresley, says a lot for Mr Gresley don"t it.!:(
     
    nine elms fan, 14 mrt 2014
    #26
  7. Bramblewick

    Bramblewick Member

    Lid geworden:
    19 jan 2010
    Berichten:
    736
    Leuk Bevonden:
    200
    Well, the one on the right is basically a V2 in a box, so it makes sense to favour the Gresley machine. ;)
     
    Bramblewick, 14 mrt 2014
    #27
  8. Hurricane

    Hurricane Member

    Lid geworden:
    1 nov 2013
    Berichten:
    823
    Leuk Bevonden:
    307
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Locatie:
    71A
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I love a good debate, the picture really does give a good comparison; what is more amazing is we can still recreate the image (Well when scotsman is back from overhaul)
     
    Hurricane, 14 mrt 2014
    #28
  9. 61624

    61624 Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    27 sep 2006
    Berichten:
    5.294
    Leuk Bevonden:
    3.599
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Well, you're unlikely to find one in this thread, just a collection of statements of prejudice!
     
    61624, 14 mrt 2014
    #29
  10. david1984

    david1984 Resident of Nat Pres

    Lid geworden:
    13 sep 2005
    Berichten:
    12.910
    Leuk Bevonden:
    1.387
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Locatie:
    Birmingham
    Neither, both adhesionless overly complicated unreliable pacifics :D
     
    david1984, 14 mrt 2014
    #30
  11. Bulleid Pacific

    Bulleid Pacific Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    14 apr 2007
    Berichten:
    4.033
    Leuk Bevonden:
    1.101
    Beroep:
    A Thingy...
    At least they're "adhesionless overly complicated unreliable pacifics" with tender doors and don't break your back when firing... ;)
     
    Bulleid Pacific, 14 mrt 2014
    #31
    Jamessquared vindt dit leuk.
  12. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

    Lid geworden:
    11 sep 2005
    Berichten:
    36.571
    Leuk Bevonden:
    9.984
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Retired-ish, Part time rail tour steward.
    Locatie:
    Northwich
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Are you therefore inferring that whatever reason you use to choose, even if it's neither of the above, it's a statement of prejudice?o_O
     
    RalphW, 14 mrt 2014
    #32
  13. Reading General

    Reading General Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    18 mei 2011
    Berichten:
    6.081
    Leuk Bevonden:
    2.217
    Ok magnificent tender doors and firehole position....is that really all they have that's better than the Nobleman or fortified stately home implied?
     
    Reading General, 14 mrt 2014
    #33
  14. 4472

    4472 Member

    Lid geworden:
    23 apr 2006
    Berichten:
    690
    Leuk Bevonden:
    43
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Retired
    Locatie:
    York
    Scotsman always
     
    4472, 14 mrt 2014
    #34
  15. 61624

    61624 Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    27 sep 2006
    Berichten:
    5.294
    Leuk Bevonden:
    3.599
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Absolutely, and nothing will convince me otherwise!
     
    61624, 14 mrt 2014
    #35
  16. Bulleid Pacific

    Bulleid Pacific Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    14 apr 2007
    Berichten:
    4.033
    Leuk Bevonden:
    1.101
    Beroep:
    A Thingy...
    Well, there is more, but we don't have all century... ;)
     
    Bulleid Pacific, 14 mrt 2014
    #36
    Reading General vindt dit leuk.
  17. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

    Lid geworden:
    25 aug 2007
    Berichten:
    35.939
    Leuk Bevonden:
    22.469
    Beroep:
    Training moles
    Locatie:
    The back of beyond
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Let's not go there shall we.
     
    Spamcan81, 14 mrt 2014
    #37
    S.A.C. Martin vindt dit leuk.
  18. david1984

    david1984 Resident of Nat Pres

    Lid geworden:
    13 sep 2005
    Berichten:
    12.910
    Leuk Bevonden:
    1.387
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Locatie:
    Birmingham
    Soft Southern firemen ;)
     
    david1984, 14 mrt 2014
    #38
  19. martin butler

    martin butler Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    16 jun 2008
    Berichten:
    3.440
    Leuk Bevonden:
    388
    Unlike western engines you dont have to be a deformed drawf to fire a west country, if you want a profile of a western fireman, think quasimodo and at least on a west country you have such things as electric lights , 2 gauge glasses, and your on the correct side of the cab,
     
    martin butler, 14 mrt 2014
    #39
  20. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

    Lid geworden:
    11 sep 2005
    Berichten:
    36.571
    Leuk Bevonden:
    9.984
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Retired-ish, Part time rail tour steward.
    Locatie:
    Northwich
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    But you do have to be fit enough to keep the firebox fed, and who says which side of the cab is the correct one?
     
    RalphW, 14 mrt 2014
    #40
Pagina 2 van 3

Deel Deze Pagina