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Isle Of Man Steam Railway

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by David Bigcheeseplant, Jun 11, 2016.

  1. MuzTrem

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    I don't think any excuse is needed for the Southwold loco to visit Mann--there's no shortage of NG enthusiasts who'd love to see that (myself included!). The main obstacle, I expect, is money.

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    Correct, money is the main obstacle, but the host railway would need to agree, as well.

    [and from previous tests, getting anything steam onto the MER these days is a non-starter]
     
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    Oh yes, loads of people would love to see it, but would the "(almost) recreate the first trains" be sufficient reason to lever some cash out of the coffers to make it happen?

    I would think (looking in from the outside) now is a good time to ask the owners, as they don't have much track to run it on, so getting it out and about might generate some steaming fees/publicity/operating experience, which might help drive the project back at base.
     
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    Moving it is one obstacle. The other is all the staff time required to get a loco that only does 20 yards up to a standard where it can do 15 miles. It also appears to be quite small when compared to an Isle of Man engine so what sort of load can it handle? There's all sorts of other things to consider like wheel profiles, coupling heights, fuel and water capacity, brakes etc. Putting it on a lorry quicky becomes the least of your worries.
     
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    Would love to see a K-36 there myself. :)
     
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    Quite so -
    not to mention any operating / firing foibles ...

    Evening running, to keep out of the way of the normal train service ?
     
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    Nice fantasy - but impractical. Sadly, SS "Blyth" is not in working order (and is not fitted with continuous brakes either). SRT are working hard on the loco, but for reasons I cannot go into here, it continues to be a challenging project....
    Seems to me that a visit by Slieve Callan could be more do-able: certificated (well - it was!) for passenger use, and not operating at the moment anyway..... James
     
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    It wouldn't necessarily have to do the full 15 miles. Perhaps a short shuttle from Do uglas to Port Soderick? Or perhaps at the other end of the line, from Port Erin to Port St Mary, where the gradients are easier. You are quite right though, that there are a many factors to consider when exchanging locomotives between betwen

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    Yes it would be fun, but I guess that a few bridges might have something to say about that :)
     
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    I think that 3ft gauge railways could do with finding themselves a fairy godfather with a pot of cash to burn, I would have liked to see the Cavan and Leitrim railway extend, but I have been told that is no longer possible
     
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    repeat message
     
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    Fair Maid of Foyers would make a lovely station pilot for a gala......
     
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    Slieve Callan was returned to steam in 08/09 so would be out of ticket by now, unless it had had a boiler overhaul which I don’t believe has happened.
    It’s been stuck in its shed since around Covid times and the WCR appears to be moribund now, so who knows what the future will be, but I don’t think it would be allowed to leave Ireland on a permanent basis.
     
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    I’m sure many railways wish for that, it doesn’t seem to be a gauge-specific request!

    (Though I suspect being reliant on a single dominant funder is not without its own risks).

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    Very pretty little loco, yes. It seems a great pity that all that work was done on Fair Maid - including the fitting of air brakes - by a dedicated and motivated team - only to have it sit out its boiler ticket on a wagon. Entirely up to the owners what happens to it, of course - but if I had been part of that team I would have been miffed......
    I have a database of all the three-footers in this country (including Eire for practicality rather than politics!) - not that many, as I am sure can be understood. They do seem to be quite unlucky (as far as steaming is concerned) as a group - Fair Maid as above, Kettering Furnaces, Scaldwell, Blyth, Handyman, the possible Tynwald, the O&K in Cornwall, locos at Tralee and Moyasta, etc. - although some of them have steamed but do so no longer, or have been restored cosmetically (some have not) that seems to be about it. Locally, we rue the odd gauge on the Southwold (while of course also celebrating it...) - a two-foot SR would have been a lot easier to restore....
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    It was pleasing to see how well attended last night's event at Port Erin was. Cosmetically restored IMR Nos. 5 & 6 normally resident in the museum and Port St.Mary goods shed respectively were on display outside the former goods shed, now museum shop. Loco No.4 Loch brought in the extra 17.30 ex Douglas albeit almost an hour late (caused by a technical problem on one of the carriages on the 16.00 ex PortErin). Nos.4, 5 & 6 were then lined up with headboards in memory of the Buttells - 3 generations of IMR railwaymen, sadly no longer with us. Hard to believe that these 3 have a collective age of 452 years and, together, some 6 million miles 'on the clock'.
    During the evening ex MNR No.4 Caledonia ran 3 shuttles to Colby and back with the restored MNR Cleminson carriage and F39 the Foxdale Brake. To speed up running round at Colby a 'Small F' was added to the rear - the Cleminson is only through piped so cannot be the last vehicle.
    The smart turnarounds allowed all the earlier delay to be clawed back and the 21.30 to Douglas departed on time.
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    Very Nice !
     
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    I'm sure that, for many, one of the highlights of this year's Heritage Transport Festival would have been the unveiling, yesterday evening, of cosmetically restored loco. No.9 Douglas and recently restored "Royal" saloon F36. Almost all the work on No.9 has been carried out by volunteers in the running shed at Douglas. F36 has spent most of the past 50 years on display in Port Erin Museum and was getting rather 'tired' so it has now been restored to usable condition by IMR workshop staff. Unlike the rest of the saloons it will stay in 1970's livery and won't be part be part of the dining train which is gradually going into 'as built' livery. Perhaps the 'before and after' photos of No.9 will give an idea of the work involved. Photos courtesy of G.Quayle & IoMSRSA.
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    IMR No.9 & F36 Douglas yard 23.7.25 G.Quayle.jpg IMR No.9 Douglas carriage shed before restoration G.Quayle.jpg IMR No.9 & F36 Douglas 23.7.25 IoMSRSA.jpg
     
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    Douglas looks nice but it it supposed to be in preserved 1967-76 spring green which looks a bit dark , or as built dark green which looks a bit light!
     

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