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Steam Dreams 2023

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by Sam 60103, Nov 16, 2022.

  1. Gladiator 5076

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    Based on my experience of railtour pick up points, many regular passengers do not even know (or cannot be bothered) to look up and read a departure board. So not sure many would look up to see a roof board.
     
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    Me too, but there are certain people who take fast and extreme zooming in and out to dizzying extremes so yours was mild!
     
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    Not sure how quickly word of a noticeable fire behind them would get to the footplate crew, and the vegetation is hardly tinder-dry (yet). It may have happnened but I've not seen any reference to it. Leaving Woking later it was certainly working very hard, as far as I could tell taking the whole train, including the 47, itself!
     
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    At Old Dilton I asked a Network Rail worker about the fire. He had been informed that the fire had nothing to do with a steam engine.

    The way in which Braunton worked up to the summit at Scudamore on the return was testament that the loco was not being restrained due to fire risk. <BJ>
     
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    Dorset and Wiltshire Fire and Rescue Service may disagree with you.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-65693495
     
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    Although of course on RTT most of the cancellations which started occurring just after the ECS arrived were put down to problems with a steam locomotive.
    https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/se...23-05-24/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt
     
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    How strange in that case that the diesel locomotive was not at the front of the train on the return. [BJ]
     
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    I think Bahamas has a 4000 gallon tender. We followed right behind the 0712 Waterloo to Basingstoke stopper
     
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    Yes it has, not enough to get to Salisbury. Last year with Clan Line we were on the fast all the way to Worting Junction, first water stop at Salisbury but that’s with a 6,000 gal tender.
     
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    You can always double the number of filling points on your tender, but it only works if you've dual feed from the tanker, finding two hydrants might be difficult.
     
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    There is a company with a dual feed fire tender that took over from a Bells Twotones, no use under the wires out of Paddington though
     
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    it is drier than you think . allotment ground even after what feels like a never ending damp winter is drying out very quickly

    NYMR banned steam as a result of fire risk , reports of fires after the Jacobite .

    I know most loco's have spark arrestors fitted but some current coal seems more likely to stay lit longer if it does evade the arrestor
     
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    From the SD page for the tour

    Our journey begins heading northwest from Oxford to the southern outskirts of Bicester where our train reverses. We the head steam hauled on the Chilterns Line up to Banbury for our first planned water stop. With loco refreshed we continue onwards through the county of Warwickshire home to William Shakespeare, before reaching Hatton. Here we perform a second reversal and again have a short section of the journey diesel hauled up to Dorridge. At Dorridge we change directions for the final time heading back south steam hauled and passing back through Warwick with its renowned castle, before retracing our steps as far as Banbury. After stopping for water at Banbury for a second time the last part of our journey sees us head directly back to Oxford via Heyford and Tackley. It is hoped passengers will be able to alight at Banbury to view the loco during both water stops.

    This journey is planned to be diesel hauled for 2 short sections firstly between Oxford and Bicester South Jn later followed by Hatton West Junction to Dorridge. All other parts of the journey are planned to be steam hauled.
     
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    Many thanks for that info.
    Never occurred to me to check the Steam Dreams page for the tour!
     
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    It's all down to the bridge closure between Didcot and Oxford. Originally the circular was supposed to be 'heading towards London' before diverting back via the chilterns. But instead they've had to put together a Dorridge bound trip.

    From the original descriptions before the timings went live, Mayflower was supposed to lead throughout. Having arrived at Oxford via the Chiltern hills it would've been facing the right way to head back towards Paddington via Didcot, but then at Hanwell it was due to go via Greenford, and then do a rerun of its outward journey via the chilterns back to Oxford. Then the journey back to London would've just involved getting to Paddington again via Didcot and Reading.

    Instead, the diesel leads from Oxford to Bicester South Junction, then Mayflower leads all the way to Dorridge. The diesel then hauls it to Hatton West Jn where Mayflower then takes control back to Oxford, similar to what Scotsman did on her Oxford trip last year. It's good they came up with this last minute plan but the downside is not having the interesting itenary of steam doing 2 circuits of the chiltern hills in one day, but more importantly, the passengers on the trip from London won't be getting home until nearly midnight.
     
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    Are you sure about that?
    It’s different to what @Gladiator 5076 and Steam Dreams say. I was hoping it would be steam hauled from Dorridge to Hatton West Junction, as one of my planned locations was the climb of Hatton Bank.

    "This journey is planned to be diesel hauled for 2 short sections firstly between Oxford and Bicester South Jn later followed by Hatton West Junction to Dorridge. All other parts of the journey are planned to be steam hauled".
     
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    Think there’s confusion.

    Steam: (from Bicester) Oxford Parkway - Oxford
    Cl.47: Oxford - Bicester South Jn
    Steam: Bicester South Jn - Dorridge (climbing Hatton Bank)
    Cl.47: Dorridge - Hatton West Jn (essentially the turning move)
    Steam: Hatton West Jn - Oxford
    Cl.47: Oxford - Oxford Parkway (then onto Bicester)
     
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    I think SD have got it wrong. Otherwise, the diesel would be leading for the entire outward run from London as it doesn't reverse at all on that run. Diesel then takes it from Oxford to Bicester Depot, steam then leads back to Oxford to pickup the passengers for the circular run where it reverses, diesel then leads to Bicester South Jn where steam regains control.

    Edit: Just seen @Will RL explained the full itinerary.
     
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    I’m still confused. Doesn’t that mean the Cl. 47 will be on the front up Hatton Bank?
     

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