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CME 2023

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by Oswald T Wistle, Jan 6, 2023.

  1. Oswald T Wistle

    Oswald T Wistle Well-Known Member Friend

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    It has been a "funny old week" weather-wise. Here in East Lancashire we've had light rain, heavy rain and torrential rain and most variations in between, sleet, snow and hail, thunder, frost, ice, light winds and strong winds and even a few dry hours (certainly not days). As usual the two main weather forecasts couldn't agree on what this afternoon might bring; a low probability of showers offered the BBC, probably dry said the Met Office. The early afternoon was dry with just a couple of flurries of the lightest rain. However as the time came for me to head over to Wilpshire (a little earlier than usual as NT were on strike and WCRC had the "freedom of the line") the sky darkened - typical.

    It was still dry as I left home, some light rain fell mid-journey then stopped. Still dry as I parked the car but as I collected my bits and pieces from the the boot light rain began to fall. It was not sufficiently hard to warrant putting my brolly up, nor to stop me heading to my spot on the station platform. But then it grew harder, I opted to take refuge in the shelter for a few minutes. The rain eased so Oswald headed out onto the platform and began to ready himself, another guy arrived and set up beside me. We chatted, unlike me (a one-hit wonder) he had been chasing all day. It was now ominously dark, the station lights came on and the rain started - brolly up. Already through Clitheroe and less than 10 minutes before our train should arrive - the rain grew heavier!

    Then the sound of SG's exhaust as she left Wilpshire Tunnel, steam drifting from around the bend in the distance then the loco coming into view. Working hard against the grade, sanders on (and why not?!), good steady progress towards the station, the sound growing louder - lovely stuff. Through the platforms, alongside now, might have been Martyn Soames on the footplate, a flash of firelight as she passed under the road bridge and off towards the summit. 11C, 7E & 20mph.

    I hope that those on board enjoyed their trip along the "through siding" and the chance to sample the delights of Appleby, albeit for a few minutes. Driving home it looks like we (me & Oswald or more correctly Oswald & I - that's four of us) had a near miss, only a couple of miles away there had been a deluge with large pools of standing water on the road. Arriving home (8 miles) it hadn't rained but the sky was as black as a politician's heart.

     
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    Not having much luck with the weather Young Whistle
     
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    46115 seen from the west side of Scout Green and a lineside shot where the old signal box was then Birkett Common for the return, it was good to chat with David (DWH 2824) and Shep Woolley today.

     
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    Finding the sun today was going to be a bit of a long shot.

    So here's a couple of long shots ! :Snaphappy: 23D_0559 46115 Greenholme 180323.jpg 23D_0586 46115 Garsdale 180323.jpg
     
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    Just a couple of shots at the destination of Appleby rather than Carlisle for this trip. 20230318_141518.jpg 20230318_141338.jpg
     
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    I seemed to have turned into a bit of a rain magnet.
     
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    Excellent video sequences Nige! (Nice to catch up earlier too).
     
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    46115 aain the Lune Gorge CME  copy.jpg
    In the Lune Gorge making a fine sight and sound with the CME.

    46115 at Angrholm CME  copy.jpg
    On the return climbing to the summit at Angrholm
     
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    46115 on today's CME
     
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    I won't clog up this thread with a blow by blow account of yesterday and will let the images do the talking.

    Will just add that West Coast did a brilliant job of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat presented to them by Network Rail overnight on Fri/Sat.

    Headlines were a feisty climb of Yealand and Grayrigg with a more controlled assault of Shap. Min of 24. Timed nicely to get out of the way of the service train at Upperby. Ais Gill was standard stuff but a steady 27 or so up Wilpshire was good with easing near the top in the rain. Just over the hour from Hellifield to Preston must be a record.

    A very well managed day by all concerned. Thanks.
     
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    Return WCME 18.03.23.
     
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    I've been hauled by 46115 several times and am always impressed by what a fine locomotive it is.
     
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    As not a lot has really been reported about the train, I thought I'd clutter up the thread a bit as we had a good day out.

    Winter Cumbrian Mountain Express 18th March 2023

    In the words of one of our favourite tracks from a 1970 Album, this could be a "We have all been here before" Railtour. Load 11; same 'safe space' seats in Coach G and 46115 on the front. First time we've been out on a TOC strike day. The WCML was going to be a quiet place. The weather wasn't. Mizzly in Monmouthshire at 0550 when we set out and on the drive to Crewe it chucked it down on long sections of the M5 north of Worcester and on the M6, though it petered out before Stoke. Iffy forecast and we hoped for better 'up north'.

    We got to the Brocklebank before eight and had to wait for ten minutes or so for the food to be brought out. I checked on RTT to see how far the train had come and thought it was on the blink as it was still in Platform 16 at Euston. It left just before 0800, 62 down. We served ourselves breakfast, piping hot but horror of horrors, no black pudding. We were told it was down to Supplier Issues. Becoming a common theme. So an extra hash brown and sausage to top up the groaning plate!!

    Bit of a 'Ghost Town' Crewe station with very few folk around. None of the usual stewards and all that was known was there was an issue around Southall in the early morning. I'd been checking on RTT and some time had been made up on the run north due to a lack of trains on the WCML and wn.

    Some time recovered as 86259 brought 10 carriages into Crewe's P6 40 mins down. Only 20 passengers were being picked up at Crewe; smallest number I can remember; and we were supposed to be 8 of them. Back on theme too as the Standard Class carriages were on the front and would stay there all day as we were bypassing Carlisle and the layover destination was Appleby.

    Had a chat with Les our train manager who told us Network Rail overran on a broken rail replacement in Southall and then there was a points failure to compound the issue. Back on theme he told me the crew was the same as last time, Mick Rawling our driver and Martyn Soames our fireman.

    Right away from Crewe at 1017, 41 down, but even with very few trains around, we only made up 5 minutes on the tightly timed Crewe to Carnforth leg. The running was a bit odd; slower than expected in places then up to 95. Les made an announcement apologising for the carriage sway on the carriages at the rear of the train as some of the diners had complained. That was a first.

    Carnforth D&UGL to Grayrigg Summit

    While we were in the loop, Bill, a fellow timer, came to join us as his booked seat wasn't on the milepost side. Always a pleasure to time with Bill as we rarely miss any posts and he has a vast knowledge of the route. 86259 was released quickly and the cords pulled on the brakes. We felt 46115 and POB attach and the brake test was done very quickly. The signaller gave us a green smartly after that and we were away only 12 minutes down. RTT showed there was an Avanti Service to Carlisle due through Carnforth 38 minutes after our booked time so that was now a more interesting 26 minutes behind us.

    One of the truisms of travelling on Steam Hauled Railtours is that no 2 trains behind the same locomotive are ever the same, a trait 46115 has shown over the years. We did sort of hope it would break the theme and be better than the 11th February.

    It was cloudy with a gusty wind; but not wet, though further north it looked decidedly worse. Plenty of gusty wind too. It's only a mile to the foot of Yealand Bank and today we had a nice aggressive start with plenty of noise and acceleration from the Scot. By mp6 1/2 Mick was using the 369f well and we'd got to 26.4 on the short level at mp6 3/4. Then there was a change in note from up front and the Scot roared past MP7, the start of the 2 1/2 miles of 134r at 34.6. Lovely stuff, and far from losing speed to the bank, we passed mp8 at 35; mp8 1/2 at 36.4; and mp9 1/2, the summit, at a very decent 37.3. A very good climb for a Class 7 and it set us up well for the 3 3/4m run to mp13, the start of the 13 mile long Grayrigg Bank. 46115 was worked hard on the 293f, and we took 57 onto the level 2 miles where it got seriously noisy and speed rose to max of 67 as the Scot really roared past mp13, the start of the 173r. 'Onwards and Upwards' as they say!!

    We passed Milnethorpe, mp13 1/2 at 65.4 and with the characteristic roar, the 2 miles+ of 173r to mp15 3/4 only saw speed fall to 60. Despite the gradient steepening to 153r for 3/4 mile, speed held at 60 but there was no pickup on the 3/4m of 392r, left at mp17 1/4 at 60.4, max 60.7. Martyn was working hard on the fire and the safety valves lifted momentarily as we hit steeper mile of 111r. This dragged speed back to 52 at mp18 1/2. 46115 was still being driven hard but the bank was taking its toll. The gradient eased to 176r and we roared through Oxenholme, mp19 at 51.4 (43.8) and held it onto the 3/4 mile of 104r, the steepest bit of the bank. We left it at mp20 1/2 at 48 (40), and over the next mile of 213r/124r lost nothing to leave it at 48 (37).

    We love the sound of a Scot working hard and that's what we got, but speed kept falling steadily on the 3/4m 124r to 37. Much noisier on the 2 miles + of 131r to mp23 3/4 and we took 44.3 (35.4) onto the final steeper 2 miles of 106r to the summit. Crossed Docker Garth's Viaduct at a good 44 (35.8) and with a cacophony of unique Scot roar, speed only fell slowly and we crested the summit at mp26 at 39 (30). An excellent climb. Didn't quite expect that as anywhere near 40 is rare these days.

    Well and truly broke the 'theme' as the elapsed time from mp13 to mp26 was 15m 22s, well over 6 minutes faster than 11th February.

    Grayrigg to Shap Summit

    As is the norm, we rolled down the 204f/777f to Low Gill, mp28 passed at 58 (48); fire and boiler preparing time. Steady pick up down the 425f and we passed mp29 at 60 (54) and mp30 at 65.3 (62.2). The mile of level track was the trigger for the charge at Shap and the roar was superb close to the front as we passed mp31 1/4 at 68.8 and held that over the first 1/4m of 146r. Bit surprised we lost over 6 mph to this section and we didn't see mp33, the first on the 75r. We passed mp33 1/4 at 59.8 and didn't see mp33 1/2 either. Normal timing was resumed and we passed mp34 at 51.1 (48.2) with 30 at the summit prediction for the onboard Shap Challenge looked good. Interestingly the attrition per 1/4m was close to 3 mph on the lower section, not dissimilar to 11th Feb.

    Still going well and with plenty of noise at mp35, 39.4 (36.5) and Scout Green, 38 (34.8). Interestingly the attrition fell to 2 mph per 1/4m from there, but my chance of winning the 'challenge' had gone as we passed mp36 at only 30.8 (20.5). Might have been a bit of caution on the footplate as this was where we slipped on the 11th Feb. The last mile and a quarter followed the attrition rate more or less as we passed mp36 1/2 at 27.1; mp37 at 25.3 and the climbing summit, mp37 1/4 at 24.6 (20.1). No slip on the lubricator and we passed the plateau summit, mp37 1/2 at 24.7 (16.2 after a slip).

    As the great man said "mustn't grumble". Time from the start of the 146r, mp31 1/2 to mp37 1/4 was 8m 15s (9m 41.1s). We'd lost no time to the schedule between Carnforth and Shap Summit. A check on RTT showed us that the following Avanti Service was only 9 minutes behind us. It was stopping at Penrith North Lakes so we weren't likely to hold it up.

    Shap Summit to Upperby Goods Loop

    All down grade to Carlisle but no doubt some fire tending and boiler filling after all the climbing. We passed mp40 on the 142f at 57.2 (55). Speed picked up noticeably to mp42 1/2, 125f, 71 on the 125f to pass mp44 at 71 but braking took us back to 60 at mp43. Don't know why. We got to 75 by mp47 (75). Slight easing on the approach and through Penrith North Lakes at 72.1 (71.2). The Pendolino arrived into the station only 3 minutes after we roared through, some 5 early, but it was held to booked time departure, 9 minutes behind us.

    We ran in the low to mid 70s down to mp64 and trundled across into Upperby Down Goods Loop 9 down. Sad to see the framework only remainder of the Upperby Junction Sign. The Pendolino passed us a few minutes later, some 5 early. We resorted to eating our lunch while we were in the siding. Missed visiting the 301 and had to resort to a bottle of Wye Valley HPA.

    Upperby Down Goods Loop to Appleby

    The water tanker was waiting for us and we were ready to leave before our booked time. We sort of started then stopped, started again and stopped again. We were told by Les that Network Rail had a Stop Board protecting the exit onto London Road Jn. We rolled down the siding and reached London Road Jn 14 minutes after we'd 'left', now some 7 minutes down.

    We rolled down to Petterill Bridge Jn then 46115 was opened up as we passed Mp306 3/4, 21.4, where the 7 1/2 miles of 132r starts. Nice sound drifted back but we didn't get the sort of pick up expected. By mp306 speed was only 26.3 (29.6); old Cumwhinton Station then mp304 at 30.4 (30). The noise level rose as Mick got the train to 39.21 (38) at mp303, Howe and Co. Disappointingly that was as good as it got. We passed mp302 at 36.1 (35) and mp301 at 33.4 (33.5). There seems to always be a slowing to 30ish across the Eden Brows Viaduct, 30.7 (31.5) and we passed the 'summit', mp300 1/2 gone, at close to 32 (31.4).

    The term 'regulation run' sort of described Upperby to Appleby over the undulating gradients. No real highlights. Nice and noisy up the short 132r to Armathwaite 47, (48). Up the mile + of 220r to Baron's Wood Tunnels, 295 3/4, a slow 40 (49). Down 2 1/2 miles of 165f, 60 (59); short 264r to Lazonby and Kirkoswald, 57 (54.3). undulating for a while to mp291, 60 (59). Nice sound drifted back as we hit the few miles of 264r/132r; Little Salkeld, 56 (55); mile and a half of 132r/110r to Langwathby, 49.4 (52). Bit slow that, but a good pick up on the 3 miles of 264r/330r to Waste Bank Tunnel, 56.4 (56), then on the level through Culgaith, 59 (59). Mad section for timing what with the 2 tunnels, the 3/4 milepost, the Culgaith Crossing Box and the 1/2 milepost all in less than a minute and a quarter.

    More rising than falling grades. Up the 1 1/2m of 132r/220r speed fell to 53.2 (50.6) past New Biggin. Speed held around 56 then up the couple of miles of 220r/490r/660r. At mp280 there's 1 1/2m of 120r, on at 58, off at 40 being eased for our Appleby layover. We got in some 10 minutes down; elapsed time from the third restart was just over 45 minutes, but due to the stop/start, total elapsed time was 57m 39s.

    The layover

    As the booked freight had been cancelled, the train remained in the station. Wandered over to get a few pictures of the Scot under the water crane. The water tower looks good. Hard to think it's been there for 20 years or so. We had an ice cream and then decided to wander up to the old Warcop Branch Crossing. No old gates and the lines under tarmac. The old platform and rails are still there as are the Goods Shed and Station Building. The 'scrappy' who's owned the site since 1966 showed us some old pictures taken in 1965 and some much earlier. Cost us £1 for a charity box he had there. He had a couple of old signs and an interesting old School Sign with the boy in short trousers that those of us who are of a certain age remember well. Doesn't sound like the line will ever be reopened. Too much backbiting and different viewpoints though he did say he offered to help but was turned down.

    We wandered back to the station and I had a chat with Big Al on the platform. Good to see a Southern Man up north.

    Appleby to Ais Gill

    We all rejoined the train and with a blast on the hooter we left for the challenging run to Ais Gill Summit. Unfortunately the load was under the Blue Riband requirement of 12 carriages but we hoped for a decent mid 30s or higher at the summit as the Scot seemed in fine fettle. The southbound climb isn't referred to as the long drag but over 95% of the 17 1/4 miles to Ais Gill Summit is at 100r. Away down the 2 miles of 440r/level/176f to Ormside. Noisy departure and decent acceleration but a relatively poor 54 at mp275 in 5m 27s, 11 seconds slower than 11th Feb. Plenty of noise and but a mile into the climb we passed mp274 at only 48.3 (44.3). speed was falling steadily and we sort of roared out of Helm Tunnel at 43.7 (40.4).

    Mp273 was passed at 41.5 (39) it wasn't looking very good. The trend continued and we only passed mp272 at 34.3 (34). The pick up on the a mile and a quarter of 166r wasn't great, left at 37 (38); then on the easing mile of 200r to Crosby Garret, speed only rose to just over 40 (44). Disappointing. On the short half mile of level track things improved and we left the short tunnel at 46 into Smardale. further pick up to 45 and the momentum saw us up to 49 at mp268 1/2, Smardale. Still nothing to write home about and back on the 100r we down to 39 (40) at mp267 as we entered Waitby Rock Cutting. Hmmm. Expected better. Round the curve then through Kirkby Stephen on easing 264r at 37 (38); past the signal box, 100r, 266 1/2 at 37. Bit better and 39 (39) at mp266.

    The seemingly never ending 100r brought speed down to 34.5 (33.7) at mp265 and we entered Birkett Tunnel only 32 (31.5) only passed mp264 at 30.5 (30.4). Getting to be a bit of an 'on theme' struggle. On the final easing of the gradient, 3/4m of 330r around Mallerstang. Things got noisier and 'in theme' we got to 40 (40) at mp263. We were still 3 miles of 100r away from the summit.

    We hoped we'd get out of the theme run and do an old fashioned dash around the curve to Ais Gill viaduct and the climbing summit at mp260. It was a noisier end to the climb and mid 30s was possible. We passed mp262 at 37.9 (35.6) and mp261 at 35.6 (32.2), bit better. We crossed Ais Gill Viaduct at 34.1 (just under 30) but couldn't hold it over the final 1/2 mile to pass mp260 at 30.7 (26.7). Off the 100r onto the level plateau, we passed the almost unreadable Summit Board at 34 (31.9).

    The Blue Riband Section, mp275-mp260 took us 23m 24.8s (23m 47s); to the Summit Board, 23m 53.5s (24m 19s). Appleby to Ais Gill Summit Board had taken 29m 20.2s (29m 35s). Better than the 11th Feb but not by much.

    Ais Gill to Hellifield

    Not a spirited run across to Rise Hill. It's 165f to Garsdale but no great pickup; 53.5 (61) into Moorcock Tunnel 50.6 (56) through Garsdale Station. 3/4 mile to Rise Hill Tunnel, 49.2 (52.5in); 50 (47 out). Braking for Dent down the 264f, through the station at 32.5 (30 mph); across Arten Gill Viaduct at 50 (50); Dent Head Viaduct, 264r, 52 (53) and up the 264r into Blea Moor Tunnel, 50 (49). Slowed for the crossing of Batty Moss Viaduct, 28/31 then through Ribblehead Station, mp274 1/4, 176f, at 39 (37). Down the 100f to Selside, 62 (66) and past mp243 at 63 (64); through Horton-in-Ribblesdale, mp242 1/2, 65 (65). It's all downgrade, mostly 100f with running in the low to mid 60s. We crossed Sheriff's Brow at 57 and picked up to 62 through Taitland's Tunnel .before gentle braking slowed us to 54.6 (58) through Settle Station at 58. Coming off the S&C we passed Settle Jn Signal Box at 62. Bell Busk is rises for a couple of miles at 181r/290r. The start was mp234 1/4, passed at 61.2; mp233 1/2 passed at 53.6 and mp233, 116r, 47.6. on the 290r we roared through Long Preston at 39 (40) but instead of charging the 114r to Hellifield, the Scot was eased as it was only a mile to the loop entry. Shame as it was a good climb. We stopped in the loop at 1621, 7 down. Time from Appleby was 65m 37s (65m 46s). The run seemed quite a bit better than the 11th, but the stopwatch never lies.

    Hellifield to Wilpshire Summit

    The watering was completed promptly and with no trains around, we left on time for the run along the freight only 45 mph branch to Clitheroe and Wilpshire Summit. First time in years we had no need to rush. Keeping to the limit we still arrived 3 early at Horrocksford Jn, 170f, mp21 3/4, 34 (40). No Rochdale Flyer so straight past and through Clitheroe Station, 104f, at 41 (46) and across Low Moor LX, 260f at 44 (50). All down grade/level to mp 19, 42 (42), then the brakes kicked in for Whalley, lev, 29, and the restriction across the Arches.

    Lovely sound from the front as we climbed onto the Arches, 81 1/2r, at 25 (19). It was an excellent even climb and we lost no speed across the Arches. Bill pointed out the mark where the old 1/2 mile post had been prior to the strengthening. We left the Arches at 25, still some 3 1/2 miles at 81 1/2r from Wilpshire Tunnel. We passed mp17 1/4 at 25 and with a lovely solid three cylinder beat, we climbed at a steady 25 to mp16 1/2. Speed then rose to 26 as we passed mp16 and held it through Langho. It was spitting with rain but speed rose to a max of 26.8 at mp15 but then fell back a bit as the rain got heavy and we 'hit' the cutting. We spotted the difficult mp14 1/4 - it had fallen over - and then we roared into Wilpshire Tunnel at 23.5 with the Scot's roar echoing off the cutting sides. It was chucking it down and Mick took it carefully, speed dropping to 21.2 as we passed mp 13 3/4 88r/86r at 21.2. The 1/2 milepost isn't on the old Wilpshire station so we timed mid-point, 86r, 20.1.

    Bill and I had been discussing where the actual summit was. The current Trackmaps shows it to be at mp13 1/4 on Ramsgreave and Wilpshire Station. We passed the milepost at 19 in heavy rain and I noted the altimeter reading off my GPS, 531ft. We were still climbing according to the GPS and after our carriage passed under the bridge as I read out 546ft, Bill picked out the old summit grade change indicator in the long grass. Almost immediately the GPS reading started to fall. That answered that question. Pity the indicator will soon succumb to the growing greenery.

    Bill and I had been having a 'if the milepost is seen, time it' day. Bit of a change for me as I often ignore the down grade bits. Once over the summit we've hardly seen any of the old posts before Blackburn. The rain didn't help but we did find 12 1/2 and 11 1/2, 11 1/4 and 11. Just for fun and completion really.

    Wed drifted through Blackburn Station at 20, the permitted through speed apparently, then despite the rain we decided to see how many posts we could find. None are really relevant to performance as it's all down grade to Farington Jn. We also timed the stations and crossings but it's not worth noting really as it was a subdued run in the mid to low 50s; and less down the 101f/99f from Hoghton to Bamber Bridge. Nice to have an uninterrupted run off the branch onto the WCML and we arrived in Preston some 18 minutes early, surprisingly into Platform 1. The 86 was in a bay.

    46115 and POB were detached as soon as and the 86 set back onto the train. Les told us there would be no delay as the driver was taking the train back on vacuum brakes so the cords didn't need to be pulled on every carriage. Watched 46115 and POB leave and then wandered back to wait for departure. As there were few other trains running we weren't going to have any issues with pathing. We were still held to booked time!! The 86 kept to schedule and we got into Crewe at 1847.

    Not a great drive back in the rain and wind but we did get home just before 2100 hours.

    Another excellent day out with a proper steam hauled train as we've come to expect of the Winter Cumbrian Mountain Expresses.

    Not a total "We have all been here before" day but an entertaining and enjoyable one as runs with 46115 always are.

    Thanks:

    To RTC for running the train. A decent loading which must have pleased them.

    To Train Manager Les and the stewards for doing a good job all day.

    To WCR for running an unassisted train with the immaculate 46115.

    To our excellent footplate crew, Mick our driver; and Martyn 'on the shovel'. He was asked at Preston what type of coal they had. He looked thoughtful for a moment or two then replied 'black'!!

    To our guard and the Carnforth support crew for making sure the big green machine was serviced and watered as required.

    To Network Rail for letting us play on the big railway. Pity about the Southall issues but they didn't have much effect on the day on very quiet WCML. Scourge of the railway overrunning engineering work; and then to get a points failure as well...

    We're not out now until possibly the 20th May's Atlantic Coast Express. Might do the 13th May CME but friends want to do the double headed castles over the Marches and then the GWML to Didcot. Not a great fan of double headers, especially when the load is likely to be only 11/12 including the GUV. 63,250 lbf of tractive effort for a little over 400 ton train? Not much of a challenging route for a 2 row superheat single chimney Castle.

    I'll post the timings later.
     
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    I came across this video taken at Langho and shows what SG does best. Note the dry conditions, a little over 2 miles and 6 or 7 minutes to go before the train passed through Ramsgreave and Wilpshire where it had been raining for at least 15 minutes. I could get paranoid!



    My thanks to Graham for his excellent report of the days events.
     
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    Or you could drive that bit further to Langho. :)
     
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    Nerdy question. On my £10 Northern rover ticket yesterday up the S and C, down the Cumbrian Coast and back over the Little North Western, I too noted MP 306.75 just before Petteril Bridge Jn. I don't think there is a MP 307 because the junction is NER metals. So the question is--- what is the highest mileage milepost in Britain?
     
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    Have hopefully attached the interesting sections of timings here.
     

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    Not sure if it’s the highest but MP 326 was on the approach to Penzance. I think the mileages south of Cogload Junction were taken from the original route via Bristol
     
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    Or even Milepost 326½ at Penzance.

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