If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Isle of Wight Steam Railway

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by Freshwater, Nov 12, 2013.

  1. Alan Kebby

    Alan Kebby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2019
    Messages:
    1,173
    Likes Received:
    1,223
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Brighton
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Indeed the cut down myth has persisted for 50+ years. The other "preserved" 05s are from the later batch which was built with full height cabs.[/QUOTE]

    Even the official IOWSR website perpetuates this myth, stating the cab height was modified for use on the island.

    https://iwsteamrailway.co.uk/heritage/our-rolling-stock/locomotives/diesel-locomotives/
     
  2. LC2

    LC2 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2012
    Messages:
    845
    Likes Received:
    999
    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    70B
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    To be fair @Paulthehitch, photocharters do attract numbers and do pay for themselves.
    The rarer charters can command more money, you may be pleasantly surprised at how much something like this could bring in.

    That said, it won't happen. A photocharter trackside on 3rd rail Network Rail infrastructure is simply far beyond the realms of fantasy...
    An 05 with a bit of PW stock on the IOWSR would not be likely to be much of a draw.
     
    sem34090, Spamcan81 and Paulthehitch like this.
  3. cav1975

    cav1975 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2009
    Messages:
    520
    Likes Received:
    634
    gwalkeriow and Paulthehitch like this.
  4. martin1656

    martin1656 Nat Pres stalwart Friend

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    17,608
    Likes Received:
    11,222
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    St Leonards
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    In fairness I did say photo op, not a full blown photo charter, I was thinking if someone just happened to be walking along Ryde pier when the engineers train happened to be on the pier, of course, nothing would stop Island line from having an official photographer on site with the proper pts etc, to record the changing scene
     
  5. Christopher125

    Christopher125 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2005
    Messages:
    2,839
    Likes Received:
    558
    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2020
  6. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Messages:
    8,065
    Likes Received:
    5,160
  7. gwalkeriow

    gwalkeriow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    Messages:
    1,703
    Likes Received:
    1,727
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired.
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    It’s fine for me.
     
  8. Christopher125

    Christopher125 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2005
    Messages:
    2,839
    Likes Received:
    558
    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    Any delivery's expected at Havenstreet?

    Having been dumped in the long siding for two decades, I've just seen a road-rail excavator shunting the two match trucks and ballast hopper at Ryde St Johns - they are supposedly heading to Sandown somewhen today for removal?
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2020
  9. Paulthehitch

    Paulthehitch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2020
    Messages:
    1,090
    Likes Received:
    1,093
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hayling Island
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I don't know if these have any components which might have a use but the IOWSR has four air braked ballast hoppers as it is plus a ballast brake van.
     
  10. martin1656

    martin1656 Nat Pres stalwart Friend

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    17,608
    Likes Received:
    11,222
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    St Leonards
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    because of the different coupling heights, the match trucks won't be of any use for shunting the 484's when they start to arrive , I assume working 38 unit will be used to take its withdrawn sisters to Sandown for scrapping once island line closes for the maintaince work.
     
  11. Christopher125

    Christopher125 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2005
    Messages:
    2,839
    Likes Received:
    558
    Location:
    Isle of Wight
  12. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Messages:
    8,065
    Likes Received:
    5,160
    I've just tried again with the same result, then with a different browser which opened the page OK.
     
  13. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2007
    Messages:
    35,121
    Likes Received:
    20,771
    Occupation:
    Training moles
    Location:
    The back of beyond
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Not so. I ran several photo charters and raised a lot of money for 34081 out of the profits. You’ll be surprised to learn how much some photographers are prepared to pay to get their photographs. Some are active volunteers too.
     
    sem34090, mgl, big.stu and 5 others like this.
  14. Dunfanaghy Road

    Dunfanaghy Road Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2019
    Messages:
    1,252
    Likes Received:
    1,566
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Alton, Hants
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Unlikely. From the Faceache picture the hopper looks like a ZFV Dogfish (i.e. Vacuum braked). 2 of the IOWSR are HPA Dogfish, converted to Air brake by EWS for reasons that never became public. The other 2 are ex-LUL, I believe.
    Pat
     
    Paulthehitch likes this.
  15. Paulthehitch

    Paulthehitch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2020
    Messages:
    1,090
    Likes Received:
    1,093
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hayling Island
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Balanced out by the other instances of photographers who contribute not a sou in fares or refreshment purchases.
     
  16. LC2

    LC2 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2012
    Messages:
    845
    Likes Received:
    999
    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    70B
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    You get freeloaders in all walks of life Paul, I don't think the ranks photographers are necessarily overloaded with cheapskates any more than any other group.
    I agree, you do see some in fields (annoying farmers) who you never seen on the railway, but then again I chat to quite a lot of togs who buy 3 day gala tickets and travel for maybe 1/2 a day, or just to get close to a location they want to shoot from (this is from experience both as a tog and from running the RAT bar on Mid Hants galas - it's true, almost everyone talks to the the barman... ;) )
    Even at the one day I managed to attend the MH gala this year, I saw and chatted to togs on the station, that I see almost every year, who told me they hadn't been on a train all day, yet had paid the full admission.
     
    sem34090, jnc, Nick C and 2 others like this.
  17. Christopher125

    Christopher125 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2005
    Messages:
    2,839
    Likes Received:
    558
    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    They did acquire another of the Dogfish trio back in 2000 and there's a post on another forum suggesting it was through-piped, but it's since left for the mainland - DB992730 for anyone else interested in the minutiae of island-based ballast wagons...
     
  18. cav1975

    cav1975 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2009
    Messages:
    520
    Likes Received:
    634
    DB992730 was fitted with an air pipe at Havenstreet after arrival from Sandown so that it could work between the two London Transport hoppers. The air pipe was then removed when it was sold on to the Plym Valley. It was redundant at Havenstreet after the acquisition of the two HPAs from Eurotunnel.
     
  19. martin1656

    martin1656 Nat Pres stalwart Friend

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    17,608
    Likes Received:
    11,222
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    St Leonards
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I read on facebook, the hopper and match trucks are headed for Havenstreet, Is that so, ok another hopper, might be useful, I suppose if the railway is going to provide a home for a 38 unit , then the match trucks would be needed to shunt it, or be able to be used when it needs to be collected and moved probally once the connection at Smallbrook is in, so they would need an axle box and braking service before they could run on the IOWSR.
     
  20. Christopher125

    Christopher125 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2005
    Messages:
    2,839
    Likes Received:
    558
    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    Wherever they're going they should arrive soon:

    a.JPG b.JPG
     
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2020

Share This Page