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The Linear Scrapyard: Which locos/coaches/wagons in it would you most like to see get restored ?

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by toplight, Jan 4, 2018.

  1. 35B

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    I'm aware some do that, but there are transport costs involved.
     
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    Plus it's another location, liable to be unmanned, to keep secure and to pay rent, rates and council tax on.

    Any solution isn't going to be a "one size fits all" silver bullet, but where two or more groups or lines share a need for offsite storage, could this be an area where a spot of cooperative thinking may be of benefit?
     
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    gwalkeriow Well-Known Member

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    Wonderful that "Linear scrapyard" now seems to have it own "entry" in the National Presavation dictionary.
     
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    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    Works for Swanage with Herston works though, the flour mill is another place that manages to do OK with no rail connection.
     
  5. 35B

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    But both of those are restoration sites, not storage.
     
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    Horses for courses. Herston isn't exactly a storage facility tho', which I thought was what was under discussion (though don't read too much into that!).
     
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    Maybe not but my point was that they make it work with no rail connection. True there would be the issues you mentioned but I do think the idea could have merit, suppose it depends what you wish to store and for how long really.
     
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    Indeed. Things like the Bluebell's OP4 project could be off site, but storage of restored vehicles? If it's viable to store them off-site in that you don't need them that much then you've probably restored the wrong thing. What's the point in restoring something if it's just going to sit in a shed somewhere completely unattached to a railway inaccessible for viewing?
     
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    Three points about the site that contains my workshop -
    firstly, not rail connected but as the road connection is almost straight off the A69 that has never been a problem for me.
    secondly, it has a number of buildings (and areas) that would make ideal storage facilities - and whilst "commercial" rent / rates etc would need to be paid, there are possibly advantageous implications if a charitable body was to be involved ...
    thirdly, it is relatively secure already and I have hopes that the situation will be further improved quite soon.
     
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    yes, a displayed restored vehicle is one thing, a hidden one is a waste
     
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    It's heartening to see projects like the new carriage shed on the SDR, and the RVP new shed at Swithland, to get more vehicles under cover.
     
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    The problem with displaying restored vehicles without protection in an external location is that the weather very soon starts to undo all the hard work. The damage may only be slight at first, but it will be there; such as fading paint and minute scratches ...

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    Maybe some of the preservation movement organisation could or should consider cooperating to produce something akin to what the NRM did with Shildon, that place was originally designed as a storage facility ...
     
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    Indeed and ultra violet, dirt, winds and algae (even if not that obvious) are the main enemies of paintwork.
     
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    All very true, not denying it.

    However, if I've just finished a wagon (so it's not going to be running every day) and I had the choice of it sitting outside in the yard where people can see it, or whisked away to off site unconnected storage, I'd definitely choose the former, and accept I'd have to do some more work on it in a few years' time. I'd also look at modern wood treatments and putting as much paint on as possible during restoration to prolong life longer than might normally be expected.
     
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    Did you mean that?
     
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    No :oops:

    Could have sworn I wrote former... :(
     
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    Each visit to any railway I see items of rolling stock (or even railway paraphernalia) that I would like to see restored . Sadly in the absence of a lottery win (and a big one) I don't have the money, time nor resources to have any impact . An item sat in a linear scrapyard can still be restored albeit at every increasing cost . once its scrapped its gone

    What I do sense preservation is embracing is the need to get stock under cover , whether that is running fleet or waiting for restoration and to see the sheds built at Kidderminster, Bluebell Railway, Embsay , KESR is very welcome . Again I wish the lottery win would come in to make it happen faster

    I also think that passengers appreciate vintage rolling stock (in comparsion to an increasingly vintage mk1) and as railways seek to differentiate themselves we will see vintage projects developing as with the Knotty Coaches and at Pontypool as examples

    It is interesting how some carriage types are missing as running examples . Ironclads as mentioned , not too many Clerestory coaches . It is nice to see a number of Collett Bow enders now being restored so there is always hope . I'd also like to see a Milk Train with more than 1-2 tankers again and for the real WIBN , a representation of a coal washery , coal laden floor , 16t and 21t wagons with a suitable engine shunting them . I can dream though
     
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    I agree @Sidmouth .

    However, small and regular donations can help achieve the seemingly impossible - assuming enough people can put up these funds.
    There are lots of these schemes - you mention the Knotty Coaches, and I know the people behind that trust would be happy to have donations ...

    as one of the big supermarket chains keep saying "every little helps" !
     
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    Due to being outside for a year or so and flexing a bit when being moved around,
    the paint on Snowplough 18 got a bit flakey and allowed some water in last year.
    Had to give it a bit of a rub down and patch repaint plus some timber repairs.
    Is there any paint coating that would be more suitable? Using Williamson@s Indian Red currently.

    Back hidden away at the back of Newbridge shed for the winter.

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    I would invest in some good tarpaulins, not the perfect solution I know, but might help keep the rain off.
     

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