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LSWR T3 563

Rasprava u 'Steam Traction' pokrenuta od nick813, 30. Ožujak 2017..

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  1. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    Will not happen, everything is replaceable, all you need is cash :)
    Nothing quite like it at the National Railway Museum either :) :)
     
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    What a lovely thought!
     
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  3. martin1656

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    In private hands yes, you can replace time expired parts, rebuild the boiler, make new castings, under the present rules of the NRM, its very unlikily it would be sanctioned
     
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    Gladstone, working a train of LBSCR 4-wheelers on the Bluebell?
    Yes, I know... only dreaming!
     
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  5. martin1656

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    So Historically what livery could 563 carry if she does get returned to steam? im assuming anything up to the Southern war time black, Or was she always green as not every engine got repainted does any pictures exists of her between 1930 and the war?
     
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    Start with Rail Blue and work backwards? Perhaps a nod to Bulleid's renumbering scheme whilst we're about it? 20B??

    Yes ..... I am kidding!!
    Gawd John, you're like a kid at crimbo! Hardly alone there though, I think we all are. The possibilities if 563 is do-able are mouthwatering indeed. Flagship loco (and train)? Oh yes! Much fundraising ahead methinks. :)
     
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  7. WishIHadAName

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    Are their many engines that have returned to steam after such a lengh of time? A running mainline engine that never worked for BR has got to be quite rare?
     
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    K1, the first Garratt, was withdrawn in 1929 and not steamed again until 2004. The FfR restored it to an apparently original livery although it is remarkably similar to BR lined black.
     
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  9. Thompson1706

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    'Lion' ?

    Bob.
     
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    I think being overhauled after 71 years out of use must be a record surely?

    The E1 on the IOW is another loco never owned by BR, and which will hopefully be back in use before too long. There can't be many others though.
     
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  11. Steve

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    NER 1310 was never a BR loco but is operable today. Can't claim to have been out of use for more than a few years in all that time, though.
     
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    Welsh Pony - withdrawn 1938, now being returned to traffic after 79 years (or bits of it anyway).

    Steve B
     
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    Didn't the E1 run at Cranmore for a couple of years? Possibly in the 1990's.. ?
     
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  14. martin1656

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    Yes it did for a short time i believe the boiler developed several major faults but as the plan is for a new boiler to be fitted of the proper marsh pattern it isnt an issue
     
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    Hardwicke?
     
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    Furness Railway 0-4-0, no 20?

    On 563's livery, pre war Southern green with the large tender numbers would be my choice, I have always liked that livery and thought it was very smart. Also, as the Swanage aims at a 1950s/60s look it just about fits, with a slight stretch, a few locos were still in pre nationalisation liveries into the early 50s.
     
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  17. WishIHadAName

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    I quite like the LSWR livery. Maybe a what if livery had BR restored it for rail tours like the Scottish locos or the City to fit in with Swanages chosen era.
     
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  18. Martin Perry

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    120 was restored in that livery in the 1960s.
     
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    The NRM gave it away. What restrictions, if any, did they place on worn out parts being replaced by new?
     
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  20. martin1656

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    the point was that Swanage can if needed replace major castings, if found to be worn, where as the NRM, unless things have changed for the national collection tends to insist that historic originality is maintained . in the case of 563, its now 100 per cent owned by the Swanage Railway Trust,
     
    martin1656, 25. Listopad 2017.
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