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Isle of Wight Steam Railway

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by Freshwater, Nov 12, 2013.

  1. CH 19

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    I rode past Havenstreet this afternoon, sorry Gary didn't have time to stop, but if the carpark was anything to go by they were having one hell of a day, well done.
     
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    For any looking for a railway day out over the Easter weekend, the IWSR will be operating a 2-train service using Ivatt Class 2 41298 and 'Terrier' W11 (subject to the usual availability caveats!) The Ivatt will be on the LBSCR bogie coach set with W11 on the 4-wheelers.

    The formal launch of 41298 is likely to be at our Spring Gala - 28th to 30th May.
     
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    Sounds good. Is the O2 still working?
     
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    Yes it takes over from 41298 from April 2nd. The loco roster is on the website.
     
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    Hmmmm...... Must pay a visit some time this year. I thoroughly enjoyed my last visit in 2010.
     
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    Not being funny, but the April roster doesn't appear to be there. I do make mistakes, but I can't find this info?
     
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    The website will be updated to include April is due course, It is titled "Engines in steam this month" but not too helpful when next month may only be a couple of days away. Never the less it is projected that W24 will take over from 2nd April. The second engine over the Easter period will be W11.
     
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    Cheers! Will probably have to swim over a couple of times as I want to phot both larger locos. No great hardship there...
     
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    I found the loco roster for April a few minutes ago. It looks good - the Ivatt is putting some more appearances ahead of the formal launch in late May. I hope to see both both the Ivatt and the O2, but will need either to give it a couple of days, no great hardship as said above, or brave the crowds at the gala in late May to see both on the same day plus some of the smaller locos. Decisions, decisions!
     
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    Just come across this great video of 41298 and W11 pottering about on Good Friday.

     
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    I was told by one of her firemen today that she can run a days services on one scoop of coal from the front loader. The locomotive is newly overhauled and the coal is good but this is a result!

    Just in case there are those who consider this a "Water Level Route" there are gradients of 1 in 68/70 to be faced.

    Paul H
     
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    Perhaps there's something to this new-fangled superheat technology?

    I was there on Good Friday, and I agree 41298 is very nicely done (although the Westinghouse pump was doing its best impression of a scalding-water pistol from one of the top cover studs, perhaps some attention needed to the gasket before an inattentive visitor gets an unpleasant surprise). Amusingly, by IoW standards she looks rather brutish and hulking, whereas on the mainland I've always considered them very neat little engines. I think proximity to Calbourne makes most engines suffer aesthetically by comparison.
     
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    Oddly enough today one of the platform staff remarked to me that the positioning of the airpump was less liable to "anoint" passengers than that of W24. It must have been fixed anyway.

    Don't forget long travel valves as well as superheat. This is about the only "modern" branch line engine ever achieved in this country,

    Paul H
     
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    41298 is running very well - as would be expected of the Havenstreet workshop and crew.

    W11 is also looking very good and finely tuned and in tip top condition.

    Thanks Christopher125 for posting the youtube link.

    Cheers,
    Julian
     
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    I suspect the reason for the lower probability of anointment is that it's on the RHS of the smokebox, thus reducing the possible anointing spots to one road at Havenstreet, compared to W24 which can perform the trick at three out of four platforms on the line.

    While I would never discount the benefits of long travel valves and ample ports, they are also a matter of proportion to the size of engine, hence the progression from Drummond's free running T9 class to the dog that was No. 335, which Urie remembered as the only engine on the South Western that needed steam on to coast downhill. The O2 and the Terriers probably have perfectly adequate ports and relative lap for their size, when compared to the Ivatt.

    I specifically mention the T9 because later in life superheated T9s, complete with their double slide valves and original valve gear, went to the Eastern section. The local crews found them every bit as powerful and economical as Maunsell's acclaimed D1 and E1 rebuilds, which had new cylinders, piston valves and unequal rockers fitted to the original valve gear to give long travel; everything the ex-GWR contingent could devise to improve the events. The T9s ran further between Intermediate and General Repairs as well. The overall dimensions and all-up weight are nearly identical.
     
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    I suspect comparing the T9s to the D1s and E1s deserves a seperate thread!

    An analysis of how the Ivatt performs at Havenstreet however might be more on topic and of more interest! I have long thought that for 'ordinary' work superheated piston valve locos show a distinct advantage. This has been proven in miniature, and on the Ffestiniog Railway. We wont see a superheated Terrier on the IW, but a new superheated boiler for Stepney on the Bluebell might be interesting! And he/she needs a new cylinder block as well.

    But I am getting into the realms of 'might be nice' which offends Paul.

    Cheers,
    Julian
     
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    I only object to "wouldn't it be nice" when it is being said seriously"!

    Paul H
     
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    Had a brilliant day on the IOW over the Bank Holiday weekend.

    Two trains running, busy trains, beautifully restored wooden carriages, friendly and efficient staff (particularly at Smallbrook Jctn), excellent food, and loads of extra things to do at Haven Street (real ale tent/music, falconry displays, woodland trail with really bad jokes). The new "Train Story" is a simple but informative storage and display area with their unrestored carriage bodies waiting attention, and the shed area was surprisingly free of clutter.

    Our journey from Portsmouth was by hovercraft (with the new one on display at Ryde), then 1930s Island Line tube train. Interesting that the Ivatt 2-6-2T was built over 10 years *later* than the tube stock.

    One question: does the Ivatt 2-6-2T have a blow-down value? Our lunch in the station cafe was interrupted by two deafening roars, with clouds of steam from the shed area. Went on for 10-20 seconds.
     
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    Yes it does, every lunch time when it is in use it is blown down.
     
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    I guess lunch time is preferred for this operation as it doesn't risk waking the neighbours (providing they don't work shifts!) and by that time the pit should be clear of ash.
     

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