"Preserved" steam locos that were subsequently scrapped

I don't think that many of the UKs preserved steam locos are as safe for the long term future as many would probably believe. The generation which toiled to extricate locos from Barry, purchase others off BR etc is ageing & it is clear that whilst there are some promising younger folk taking an interest, the level of dedication previously seen is just not there in the same quantity.

 

The National Maritime Museum scrapped the 'Reliant'

 

There's a counter argument which is that amongst several railways, there is a concentrated investment in infrastructure for undercover storage and better maintenance facilities. So what you might lose in numbers of people, you gain in being able to slow the rate of deterioration of vehicles, particularly out-of-traffic vehicles. I'm sure we can all point to vehicles that have ended up more complicated and expensive to restore because of the way they have been stored over the past few decades - hopefully such stories will gradually become rarer in the future.

Tom

 

People also contribute in more than one way - witness the increasing numbers of large legacies we hear about. They might be a last, one off donation but the they do make a big difference.

 

Yes 'Mephisto' has been a part of the Queensland Museum for almost a century. A strange place for the last A7V to end up.
As I understand it a number were taken as war trophies but were destroyed over time - in fact I have read that one was on display in Horseguards Parade in London at one time. Wonder what happened to that one.

 

And that was my favourite exhibit there. Though perhaps the maritime museums equivalent of Ellerman Lines it was unique rather than one of several survivors.

 

Another point is that some locos were gifted to railways with very stringent terms attached. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that both the three Ivatt Trust locos bequeathed to the Isle of Wight Steam Railway and the Dukedog at the Bluebell may not even be re-sold, let alone scrapped.

A further reason to be positive is the number of locos which many of us never expected to steam again but have been re-sold to enthusiastic owners who have either set about restoring them or have a proven track record in so doing. 4253, 3855 and 2874 from the "Blaenavon Five" all have a much happier future than seemed likely five years ago and 4110, 5668 and 80150 are in good hands, even though work hasn't begun on them yet (and in the case of the latter two, may not begin for some time)

 

i'm sure I bought 3855 in 2008!

 

What happened to the Trevithick backplate?

 

But that was back in 1942

 

The four Ivatt Trust locomotives were transferred to the Isle of Wight Steam Railway unconditionally.

I understand that the trustees of the former Ivatt Trust have been very pleased to see that 46447 & 41298 are now operational, that 41313 is being overhauled and that Juno is on display at Shildon cosmetically restored.

 

Was it really seven years ago? I certainly won't argue with you on that one, Mr Booth! Sorry for the inaccuracy; time flies faster than I realised!

 

Mike Clarke was indeed involved. Loco was ex BICC Prescot, and left there by rail on 24 June 1966. (I have a photo of its departure behind 76084). It was moved to a site on ICI West Bank Widnes. There after, my departure from Merseyside meant I lost track of it. had been looking for confirmation of its fate.

 

That ties in with my post 150 - interesting that it went by rail though.
Ray.

 

Interesting, I think the present owners of 76084 might be interested in obtaining a copy of that photo for their photographic archive.

 

One engine mentioned on this thread had not been scrapped. "Newstead", a Hunslet 16" 0-6-0st has very recently been sold.

Tim

 

Discovered in her late owner's shed.

 

Or could it be considered a rebuild? Some allegedly rebuilt locos included even less original material than Iron Duke.

 

Aren't 7135's frames still around at Ribble, or am I getting confused with the other one that was used to build Iron Duke

Edit, ignore that, it was Respite (the other one) that's mortal remains ended up at Ribble.

 

I've always been somewhat curious about the "supposed" reasons for the scrapping of Ben Alder. I.E. it didn't have an original Highland Railway Boiler. The curiousity comes in when you bring in the LSWR T9 120, as she too doesn't have an original LSW boiler, so QED by default shouldn't have survived........ Granted the laws/legislation between England and Scotland are different, but you'd have thought there would have been a degree of common ground across the board with such things. Taking the as U.K. whole, rather than just individual country ideals whilst keep that same individuality