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35018 British India Line

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 34014, Sep 23, 2014.

  1. 26D_M

    26D_M Part of the furniture

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    Finally solved the question of why the owner wants it black. Mainly due to it not being an LMS origin so it is not held in the same regard as others which have Nostalgia value. The MN is not a true love just a necessary workhorse.
     
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    Shh... Whatever you do - dont mention this...

     
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    Wait for the its only tangmere quotes.
    So thats Hemerdon, Evershot, filton at least without even thinking about it, Tangmeres failed to climb.
     
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    To be fair. Every engine has their off day and part of the banter of this hobby is the teasing that goes with the choice of what your favourite engine is.

    Mine all climb hills, just not quickly...
     
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    Hmm , seem to remember 5043 set most of Tebay/Greenholme lineside alight on the 26th of May 2012 when following 46233 LOL . ;)
     
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    I seem to recall it also set the Chilterns alight in April 2013, so maybe I'm being a little too hard on it.
     
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    Drull? My... In defence of my learned friend, if you could type in a sarcastic tone, you'd be almost dangerous...
     
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    7714, for such a little engine it's taken Mr Churchill's words about 'setting Europe alight' to heart quite literally, well parts of Worcstershire and Shropshire anyhow!
     
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    Duplicate post, deleted
     
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    It's a Swindon labour saving device, The Labour of the vegetation clerance gang to be precise.
     
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    Must be the only labour saving device the GW ever provided on one of their locos, then.
     
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    Didn't a light pacific perform rather spectacularly on the 1948 locomotive exchanges- producing some excellent evidence of their hill climbing ability?

    Chris
     
  17. John Petley

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    Yes. 34004 Yeovil flattened Druimuachdar and Slochd on the Highland Main Line.
     
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    Moving this back onto BIL, does anyone know ,or have a insiders knowledge when its full load test is likily to be, i'm hoping it will be some time this month, hopefully this week will be fitting
     
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    On this particular example, (and I'm not having a go!), it may be tempered by the fact(?) that surely it was being driven by a hand picked driver of utmost talent and experience - something that is quite possibly unable to be replicated in umpteen YouTube videos of wheel slipping locos.

    Not that I am in any way casting nasturtiums on the ability or dedication of today's drivers or indeed the performance characteristics of any class of loco. It must be very easy to find any number of slipping loco videos or anecdotal evidence and draw preferred conclusions without overly paying mind to several principles of physics that must come into play in each scenario. Furthermore, a steam locomotive is more than just metal, it also has a human element - a top link driver of yesteryear who plied his trade day in and day out v's the very best of today, may well be akin to an excellent amateur tennis player trying to match it with Rodger Federer.

    Extremely powerful locomotives fighting gradients, greasy conditions, overloaded trains, different drivers, etc, etc...how can you say one is better or worse than the other unless you back the train up, switch locos and try again under the same conditions? Even then you might run into the conundrum that you are just asking a loco to do something that it was never designed to do.

    :)
     
  20. gricerdon

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    Driving a Bulleid pacific in original form requires skill . Ray Churchill and Pete Roberts are two who perfected the art. They are superb powerful and free running engines and I had many good runs behind them in the days of steam plus over 3,000 miles behind Tangmere in it's preservation days. But all engines and drivers have their off days and I was on the trip when Tangmere failed to restart it's train from Ore after being stopped there with most of the train on the steep gradient in the tunnel And that was Pete Roberts
     
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