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SKGLB Ci569

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by houghtonga, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. houghtonga

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    https://twitter.com/LlanfairLine/status/228159570734899200/photo/1

    From the W&L Twitter page - a picture of newly rebuilt ex Salzkammergut Lokalbahn (SKGLB) carriage Ci569.

    Historical notes:
    Built Grazer Waggon und Maschinen Fabriks A.G. of Graz Austria, 1925 for the Salzkammergut Lokalbahn.
    1925 to 1930 – Ci 167
    1930 to 1957 – Ci 569
    1957 one of five SKGLB coaches sold to Zillertalbahn
    1957 to 1968 Bi 24.
    Destroyed in a fatal accident on a level crossing in 1968 and withdrawn. Before the accident it is believed this carriage was selected to be one of the four carriages to be donated to the W&L by the Zillertalbahn, but after the accident sister Bi25 (ex SKGLB Ci572) was sent to Wales renumbered Bi24 instead. The remains were sold with coach Bi22 to Club 760 on the Taurachbahn. Later sold to the Gurktalbahn and from there it was aquired by the W&LLR in 2003 after being discovered by Terry Turner.
    Rebuilt at Llanfair utilising the orginal chassis using the remains of the old body as a template by the W&L carriage team lead by John Bancroft, some work remains to be done on the brake gear before it re-enters service.
    The Salzkammergut Lokalbahn (Salzburg-Bad Ischl) Austria’s great lost line (their equivalent of the Lynton & Barnstable) and was famous for its spectacular scenary.
    Salzkammergut-Lokalbahn
    Die liebe kleine Eisenbahn - YouTube SKGLB in the 1950s German musical "Kaiserball"


    Several of the locomotives survive (including the W&LLR's "Sir Drefaldwyn") but only five of their distinctive coaches survived of which the W&L has two.
    Ci563 (ZB Bi22) – sold to Club 760 (Taurachbahn)
    Ci565 (ZB Bi23) Still in service on the Zillertalbahn
    Ci569 (ZB Bi24) remains sold to Club 760 (Taurachbahn), then Gurkatalbahn, then W&L
    Ci572 (ZB Bi25) Donated to W&L in 1968
    Ci574 (ZB Bi26) Sold to the Alpenrasthaus Zehetner (Hotel) and now at the SKGLB Museum at Mondsee


    For those who might be interested by the the W&L Austrian carriage fleet here is a full list of other vehicles below:

    Bi 14
    Built Grazer Waggon und Maschinen Fabriks A.G. of Graz Austria, 1900 for the Zillertalbahn.
    1900 to 1933: Numbered Ci 21
    1933 to date: renumbered Ci 14, later re-classed as Bi 14 (2nd class).
    -Donated to W&LLR 1968. Together with B16 and B17 the carriage arrived at Llanfair with the Zillertalbahn simple vacuum brake (a system that was more or less outlawed in the UK since the 1889 Armagh accident) which was converted to conventional vacuum brake at Llanfair using ex ÖBB brake cylinders obtained via the Zillertalbahn.
    -Rebuilt with new body in 1992 by ARMAC training, based within the Cammell Laird shipyard, Birkenhead. Incorporates wheelchair access.

    Bi 16
    Built Grazer Waggon und Maschinen Fabriks A.G. of Graz Austria, 1903 for the Zillertalbahn
    1903 to 1933: Numbered Ci 23
    1933 to date: renumbered Ci 17, later re-classed as Bi 17 (2nd class).
    -Donated to W&LLR 1968.
    - Rebuilt with new body in 1989 by ARMAC training, based within the Cammell Laird shipyard, Birkenhead. Incorporates wheelchair access.

    Bi 17
    Built Grazer Waggon und Maschinen Fabriks A.G. of Graz Austria, 1903 for the Zillertalbahn.
    1903 to 1933: Numbered Ci 24
    1933 to date: renumbered Ci 17, later re-classed as Bi 17 (2nd class).
    Donated to W&LLR 1968.
    -Body replaced by Fred Hamblin at Llanfair in the 1977 (this body has since been fitted to an Ex Chattenden flat wagon and is used a PW mess van)
    -Body replaced at Appleby Heritage & Train centre 1998. Incorporates wheelchair access.
    -Carried HRH Prince of Wales – 2002.

    Bi 20
    This is a “Replica of a Zillertalbahn carriage” built by Calea Ferata Ingusta (Romania) in 2007 using a ex Steiermarkische Landesbahnen chassis. (Axleboxes marked StLB). It could be from a goods wagon as both carriages and vans on the Austrian narrow gauge used the same standard 3700mm wheelbase, 7340mm overall length design.

    Bi 25
    Built Grazer Waggon und Maschinen Fabriks A.G. of Graz Austria, 1925 for the Salzkammergut Lokalbahn.
    1925 to 1930 – Ci 166
    1930 to 1947 – Ci 567
    1947 to 1957 – Ci 572 (fitted with toilet)
    1957 one of five SKGLB coaches sold to Zillertalbahn
    1957 to 1968 – Bi 25
    1968 to 2003 – Bi 24 Donated to W&L by Zillertalbahn (inherited number after Bi 24 was withdrawn see above) toilet converted to guards compartment.
    2003 to date – Bi 25

    Bi 27
    Built by Waggonfabrik Simmering Austria, 1906 for the Neiderösterreichische Landersbahnen (NÖLB) initially for the Mariazellerbahn although later in it’s career it was transferred to the Walderviertalbahn network (a ticket for Gmund was found during overhaul). As originally built it had vertical wooden cladding but this was later replaced by steel sheeting. The NÖLB was absorbed into the Austrian Federal Railways, Österreichische Bundesbahnen (ÖBB) in 1922.
    It was sold to the Zillertalbahn in 1968 and was donated to the W&LLR in 1975.
    1906 to 1927 - 290
    1928 to 1968 - 3660
    1968 to date B27

    Prefixes:
    A=1st Class
    B= 2nd Class
    C= 3rd Class
    D= Non Passenger (Guards Van)
    i = Balcony vehicle (not always used)
    s = Heating (?)
     
  2. paulhitch

    paulhitch Guest

    Gareth,

    Thanks for this detailed posting. These vehicles show the Austrians demonstrating how the 762 mm gauge allowed the production of straightforward, simple and therefore cheap vehicles for secondary lines. So much more satisfactory IMHO than the over-elaborate and costly ideas of E.R. Calthrop!

    There are intiguing differences in underframe and axlebox design between the ZB vehicles of the early C20th and the later ones of the nineteen twenties although the dimensions of the vehicles are very similar.

    P.H.
     

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