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S E & C R "N" and "K" Class Works Photos

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  1. 32110

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    I have recently scanned two photos showing the First of Class of the S E & S R's "N" and "K" locomotives. They were taken at Ashford in 1917.
     

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    Very, very nice. A K would make an ideal locomotive for a preserved line, as it was proven that the issues with stability were due to the poor shale-ballasted track on the SECR section, not the bogie itself. Moreover the bogie could be a tad redesigned, like the V2s were.

    Unfortunately I doubt that it would ever take off as a project as they last existed so long ago- you couldn't paint it BR Black!
     
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    Interesting. The backgrounds are unusually plain. Did Ashford hang up a white sheet immediately behind the loco, or has the background been painted out during printing, I wonder?
     
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    Looking at the originals it would seem that the photographer has 'airbrushed' out the background - see area just below right buffer on the "K" class tank.
     
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    Ah, brings back memories of editing the Wikipedia articles of both classes... I also started doing the N1 article, but there doesn't seem to be that much source material out there, so that's gone on the back-burner. Thanks for sharing these with us!
     
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    Maybe 31806 on the Mid Hants could be back-converted as "River Torridge"! 1618 on the Bluebell was in the batch that were ordered as K class locos but turned out as a U after the Sevenoaks disaster. OK, probably not likely in either case...

    Tom
     
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    It always surprises me how good Southern locos look without the Dumbo smoke deflectors. And how much the deflectors detract from their appearance.

    PS Just saying, I think Castles and Kings would look worse with those deflectors too, I'm not being anti-Southern! But maybe it's one reason why I love the GWR.......
     
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    Its all a matter of personal taste, particularly when the only smoke deflectors the GWR enthusiast would see on a daily basis were those on the 'Brits', 9Fs and Southern interlopers at Oxford, Reading and Cheltenham. As everyone may imagine, I quite like the Southern-style of smoke deflector as fitted to the Vs, N15s, H15s, N15Xs, S15s and LNs; they were/are quite characterful in their own strange way... This is not a dig at anyone, by the way, just personal preference.

    I also notice that No. 810 (N class prototype) has the piston tail-rods fitted. What were these in aid of?
     
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    Indeed. And I'm sure that for many of us, "looking good" means looking the way that we grew up to think that things should look. Eeek what a horrible sentence. I mean, "looking good" means looking like we grew up with :)
     
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    Erm, do you mean that if you are used to seeing things one way, then it may sometimes seem strange to see things done another way/makes it difficult to imagine things done any other way? In which case I agree with you. Whilst I was born twenty years too late for steam, it is generally the final guise of steam British locomotives that I seem to have become attached to, ie. BR green/black, late crest etc.
     
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    Yes, I mean that. I worked for many years in software training and implementation, and one of our working assumptions with existing methods was that "I like it because I know it."

    And in the same vein, "it's not the same, I don't like it".

    Dumbo smoke deflectors, for me, are in the latter category!
     

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