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Locomotives of the LB&SCR

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  1. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    I have added a lot of new photos to the collection of Stroudley D1 & D1X 0-4-2T locos

    The LB&SCR D1 class were powerful 0-4-2 suburban passenger tank locomotives, designed by William Stroudley of the London Brighton and South Coast Railway in 1873. They were originally known as "D-tanks" but later reclassified as class D1. Members of this very successful class survived in service until 1951.
    The D1 class were Stroudley's second tank engine class, intended for heavier tasks than could be undertaken by his A1 class "Terriers" which had been introduced in 1872. They had larger 5 ft 6 in driving wheels and a 140 psi (970 kPa) boiler pressure. Between November 1873 and March 1887, 125 locomotives of the class were built, 90 of which at Brighton railway works and the remainder by Neilson and Company After 1883, new locomotives were given boilers with 150 psi (1,000 kPa) pressure, and in 1892 following Stroudley's death, the boiler pressure for replacement boilers was raised to 160 psi (1,100 kPa
    The class was the mainstay of the LB&SCR outer suburban services for twenty years, until gradually replaced by R. J. Billinton's D3 class 0-4-4 tank engines in the mid-1890s. Thereafter they were used on a variety of secondary passenger, and occasionally freight services throughout the railway. The first locomotive was withdrawn in December 1903, but many of the locomotives were still in good condition and popular with the engine crews. Douglas Earle Marsh therefore sought to rebuild six examples with a larger boiler and cylinders in 1910. In the event, only one locomotive, number 79A, was rebuilt. This locomotive was known as D1X class, but although it was more powerful than the originals, it was found to be unsteady at speed and so no further rebuilds were authorised. Of the other five new boilers, one was used to rebuild E1 class no. 89 in 1911, and the other four were put to stationary use at various places on the LBSCR system.
    Class D1 with modified tanks
    Post-grouping
    There were 84 D1 and D1X locomotives surviving in December 1922 at the grouping of the railways of southern England to form the Southern Railway. The class continued to find useful work on secondary services throughout the new railway, often in preference to far newer locomotives. During the Second World War six surviving examples were loaned to the London Midland and Scottish Railway and served in the north of Scotland. Nine examples were fitted with water pumps and firefighting equipment and were stationed at the major motive power depots in London to deal with incendiary bomb attacks.
    British Railways
    Seventeen members of the class survived the nationalisation of the Southern Railway to form British Railways in January 1948 but many of these had been in storage for several years. The last surviving example in BR service was withdrawn from Nine Elms in December 1951 and no examples have been preserved.

    Including this photo ‘off the rails’
    360 off the rails Littlehampton 4th August 1920
    https://tinyurl.com/yszjys4r

    Full collection of over 50 photos starts here with
    216 near Glastonbury c1933 the only Marsh D1X rebuild of Stroudley LB&SCR D1 class 0-4-2T
    https://tinyurl.com/yc5ke4k2

    Neil
    https://tinyurl.com/yszjys4r
     
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    torgormaig Part of the furniture Friend

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    As usual Neil an excellent selection of pictures. Of note however, photos 7/54 and 8/54 show an LSWR Adams G6 class 0-6-0T No 273 rather than the LBSCR Stroudley D1 0-4-2T of the same number.

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    Thanks, pics removed

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    30/150 32467 East Grinstead Low Level. ( But the headcode doesn't match the route.)
    71/150 32488 Guildford
    64 &76/150 32495 Newhaven Town?
    78/150 32497 Clapham Yard

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    I have added a new photo to the collection of LBSCR R.J. Billinton E3 Class 0-6-2T

    The London, Brighton and South Coast Railway E3 class were 0-6-2T side tank steam locomotives. One prototype was designed by William Stroudley shortly before his death, but was completed by R. J. Billinton, who later built sixteen further locomotives.
    In the summer of 1889, Stroudley designed a class of 0-6-2 radial tanks to replace his earlier E1 class 0-6-0T for short-distance goods and shunting duties. One locomotive was under construction at the time of his death in the December of that year. Intermittent progress on this locomotive was made until August 1891 when Stroudley's successor, R. J. Billinton ordered that further work be delayed whilst he made detailed modifications. This prototype locomotive, No. 158 West Brighton, appeared in traffic on 27 October 1891.The new locomotive was originally classified as F class.
    Once the teething troubles had been rectified, Billinton ordered a further sixteen locomotives to a broadly similar design but with increased boiler pressure. These were originally classified 'E-special' and entered traffic between November 1894 and December 1895. All were rebuilt with new boilers and extended smokeboxes from 1918 and some had increased boiler pressure.
    Both classes were later re-classified as 'E3' by D. E. Marsh, but were often referred to as 'Small Radials'. The cylinder diameter was later reduced from 18 to 17.5 inches (457 to 444 mm) by the Southern Railway.
    The class was found to be useful on the freight and shunting duties for which they were designed, but the small wheels limited their usefulness on suburban passenger duties. As a result, further construction of radial tanks was of the larger wheeled E4 class (known as 'Large Radials) introduced in 1897.
    The prototype No. 158 was withdrawn in 1934, but the remainder of the class entered British Railways service in 1948 and were numbered 32165–32170 and 32453–32462. The final E3 was withdrawn in 1959 and none have survived into preservation.

    32454 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/46yptafm

    Full collection starts here with
    LBSCR era
    https://tinyurl.com/24abprv4
    S.R. era
    https://tinyurl.com/2p98ax44
    B.R. era
    https://tinyurl.com/z92emk6y

    Neil
     
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    Collection of photos of R.J. Billinton E6 Class 0-6-2T

    The London, Brighton and South Coast Railway E6 class was a class of 0-6-2T side tank steam locomotive designed by Robert Billinton. They were introduced in 1904 and were a development of the E5 class with smaller driving wheels intended for heavy short and medium-distance freight trains.
    The E3 class radial tanks were useful on all but the heaviest freight trains in the congested London area, which required rapid acceleration from signals in order to avoid holding up other traffic. Robert Billinton therefore produced a version of his successful E5 passenger tank class with smaller 4 ft 6 in (1.372 m) driving wheels for this purpose. Twelve locomotives were built by Brighton Works between December 1904 and December 1905. The last two locomotives were originally intended to be built as 0-8-0s for heavy shunting purposes but Billinton died in November 1904 before any were built and the order was subsequently changed by his successor D. E. Marsh.
    The E6s were successful goods locomotives, but in 1911 two examples were rebuilt with the larger C3 class boiler and a C2X class smokebox and were re-classified E6X. These two locomotives proved to be very powerful, but used significantly more fuel and no more examples were rebuilt.
    All of the class survived the transfer to Southern Railway ownership in 1923, and British Railways ownership in 1948. Withdrawal commenced in September 1957 and was completed by December 1962.

    2 new photos added to this collection

    32417 Brighton 8th September 1962
    https://tinyurl.com/3vhkfjf9
    32415 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/4ukvntac

    Full collection of over 25 photos starts here with
    S.R. era
    https://tinyurl.com/462demjs
    B.R era
    32408
    https://tinyurl.com/3d5vrn9u
    to
    32418
    https://tinyurl.com/yz8t9pt4

    Neil
     
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