Hush tones:Tomorrows 31st. Canterbury Tornado anyone?

Anyone know the timings out of London on Monday 31st.for the Canterbury Tornado2...this excursion seems to be overlooked.

This should stir things...

 

I hope to be out for this - but some times would help.

nothing on uksteam yet

 

I think you will find that the steam times are the same as for the previous run on the 15th. May. Certainly the times at Canterbury are the same so I feel that you should be safe with these timings (which are still on u.k. steam).

Please bear in mind that the outward journey ran anything up to 15 mins. early last time!

 

Timings have been a little late recently due to problems with NR timing system (so I heard else where on this forum). They may be similar to The Canterbury Tornado 1 trip?

 

Outward timings appear to be within a minute of last time, however return times suggest that Sevenoaks is 18.15 (19 mins earlier) and Victoria is 19.05 (38 mins earlier).

Hope this is of use.

 

Here are the times of the steam section which were posted on WiltshireAvonGen.

WILLESDEN S.W.S. 09:37 10:12
MITRE BRIDGE JN 10:23
NORTH POLE JN 10:26
KENSINGTON (OLYMPIA) 10:30
LATCHMERE JN 10:35
LONGHEDGE JN 10:38
FACTORY JN 10:40 AL
VOLTAIRE ROAD JN. 10:41 AL
DENMARK HILL PLAT 2 10:45 AL
CROFTON ROAD JN 10:46
NUNHEAD PLAT 2 10:50
BELLINGHAM PLAT 2 10:57
SHORTLANDS JN 11:04 DF FL
BICKLEY JN 11:12
PETTS WOOD JN 11:15
ORPINGTON PLAT 3 11:18
SEVENOAKS PLAT 3 11:29
TONBRIDGE 11:39 DF
PADDOCK WOOD 11:50 DM
HEADCORN 12:05
ASHFORD INTERNATIONAL 12:21 PLAT 6 12:25
WYE PLAT 2 12:35
CANTERBURY WEST 12:46 PLAT 2 12:51
CANTERBURY WEST 15:50 PLAT 2 15:55
MINSTER PLAT 2 16:14
SANDWICH 16:23
DEAL 16:29
BUCKLAND JN 16:39
DOVER PRIORY 16:42 PLAT 1 16:53
FOLKESTONE EAST PLAT 1 17:01
SALTWOOD JN 17:06
ASHFORD INTERNATIONAL 17:17
HEADCORN 17:34
PADDOCK WOOD 17:47 PLAT 1 17:59
TONBRIDGE 18:04 UF
SEVENOAKS PLAT 1 18:15
ORPINGTON PLAT 2 18:25 FL
PETTS WOOD JN 18:31 UFL
BICKLEY JN 18:33 FL
SHORTLANDS JN 18:41
BECKENHAM JUNCTION PLAT 3 18:44
HERNE HILL PLAT 2 18:56
BRIXTON PLAT 1 18:57
VOLTAIRE ROAD JN. 18:59 FL
GROSVENOR BRIDGE JN 19:02 FL
LONDON VICTORIA 19:05 PLAT 2 19:30 FL

Hope this helps.

 

It was about 8 minutes early this morning at Bromley South, running on the fast line.

Regards,

Dan

 

Departed Ashford on time at 12:25

 

Report on SE-Gen that 60163 has failed at Canterbury.

 

That's not good news.

I'm starting to think that there must be a virus or something that's attacking steam engines at the moment, given that so many are having problems at the moment

 

Appears 66 coming from Dollands Moor to take the train forward, with 60163 heading back loco and coach to Hither Green.

 

So it is ok to run on its own? Any reports on what the actual failure is then?

Regards,

Dan

 

When it passed through Bickley earlier it was showing no head/marker lights, so maybe an electrical fault?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbgray64/4655263381/

 

Minor fault with a boiler stay, returning to Hither Green for repairs Loco + coach, expected to be available for Thursdays train as planned.

 

There is a statement on the A1 website - see here

During Tornado's lay-over at Canterbury whilst operating "The Canterbury Tornado" excursion for Path Finder Tours, fitters discovered a potential minor fault with a boiler stay. The prudent decision was taken to work the locomotive light engine back to Hither Green depot where a thorough examination can be made and any necessary repairs undertaken. The train returned to Newport by diesel traction.

It is planned that Tornado will still be available to work "The Cathedrals Express" for Steam Dreams on Thursday 3rd June 2010.

Chris

 

It certainly doesn't seem a good time for mainline steam. But if it is just one stay and not many others then 60163 will surely be a quick turn around.

 

surely one leaking stay is not enough to fail the loco unless it is a substantial leak? Given that tornado's boiler is all steel and welded it'll be interesting to see whats gone wrong...

 

A 'potential minor fault' implies it hasn't happened but could. It does seem a bit intriguing to keep a loco in steam if the problem could be significant and, if it wasn't, why take it off the train? A leaking stay isn't significant and, unless it has tell-tales (does it?), you aren't going to detect a broken one whilst it is in steam. Perhaps there's more to it than has been said, and that's not unusual.

 

Someone down at the BB was suggesting that Tornado has hollow stays so that when one fractures it weeps and its easily seen. Is this the case or just a bit of BS?

 

That was what my reference to tell-tales was about. Quite common practice on the continent but very rare in the UK.