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Could this be the end for the Durango and Silverton

Discussion in 'International Heritage Railways/Tramways' started by Johnb, Jul 3, 2019.

  1. Johnb

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    A government that tends to praise rather than punish polluters?

    But if the charge is correct, then I don’t think the railroad should be exempt.


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    Last visited there 20 years ago and locos were fitted with those awful “bear trap” spark arrestors to prevent just such a fire. Wonder what went wrong in this instance.
     
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    I think this was one of the fires that the Federal Government (i.e. DT) tried to blame on the US Forestry Service for the way they managed the land.
     
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    I assume the defence will be ‘it wasn’t us mate’
     
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    Surely the real guilty party are those environmentalists who demand more 'wilding' and less vegetation management :Arghh:
    (Have I been watching too many episodes of Law and Order :confused:)
     
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    I visited the D&S earlier this year. Many of the locals expected the train to get the blame for the fire, but few reckoned anything official would happen. I gather they hired a helicopter to accompany numerous services after the fire in an effort to immediately douse any further blazes. If the train goes, so does a significant part of the economy and a major source of jobs in Durango, which quite frankly doesn't have a lot else going for it apart from being a stop on the way to the ski resort at Purgatory in the winter.
     
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    I've been to the D&S several times over the last 20+ years and seen how important it is to the local economy - currently estimated at $200million p.a. The railway takes fire risk very seriously with spark arrestors (not 'beartraps' BTW) and ashpan water sprays fitted to all locos. At times of high fire risk trains are followed by 'speeders' with fire fighting equipment and, last year, the D&S even hired helicopters to spot any fires so they could be tackled before they really took hold. The USFS has been prevented from dealing with the real problem which is tinder dry dead material in the forest and it was only a matter of time before a discarded cigarette, broken bottle or lightning strike caused a similar fire. There appears to be only circumstantial evidence that the loco actually caused the fire in this instance. IMO the USFS has chosen to sue the railway as it (or it's insurers) have money and will settle out of court. For its part the D&S are converting a long stored K37 (493) to burn oil and have ordered 2 new diesel electrics for use at times of high fire risk. It remains to be seen how successful the diesels are as they are from the same source as the IMR's "Cabbage"..........
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    Why weren't diesel locos ordered before? Forest fires are nothing new in the US.
     
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    Whilst the D&S already have at least 3 diesels (none of which are powerful enough to replace steam) steam haulage is the big draw for many of their customers. Last summer was unusually hot and dry following a very dry winter/spring which greatly increased the fire risk. This winter/spring has had much more snow than 'normal' so, hopefully, the fire risk will be much less.
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