If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Andrew Barclay Diesel Shunter - For Sale

Discussion in 'Diesel & Electric Traction' started by Jonnie, Jun 11, 2014.

  1. Jonnie

    Jonnie Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2012
    Messages:
    374
    Likes Received:
    1,563
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    General Manager
    Location:
    Kent
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The Spa Valley Railway is seeking to dispose of Andrew Barclay Diesel Shunting locomotive 'Princess Margaret'.

    'Princess Margaret' 0-4-0DM Andrew Barclay Diesel Mechanical, works 376 of 1948. This standard gauge locomotive was supplied to Lever Brothers Port Sunlight works, and later sold on closure to British Gypsum/BOCM Erith, from where it entered preservation in 1985.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/12a_kingm ... 817794218/

    The locomotive weighs approx 32 Tons, and is low geared for maximum haulage capability, having a maximum speed of 9mph in third gear. Power is supplied by an 8 cylinder Gardener engine.

    This locomotive has been out of use for a number of years and requires full restoration, or could possibly be a source of spares. Offers for purchase of the complete locomotive are invited by Thursday 31st July. Inspection is available to serious parties by prior arrangement. Offers in excess of £5,000 would be considered for the locomotive.

    All serious enquires please email: disposals@spavalleyrailway.co.uk with the subject title 'Princess Margaret'.
     
  2. Stuart.b

    Stuart.b New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2014
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    11
    Gender:
    Male
    Estimated cost of restoration?
     
  3. Reading General

    Reading General Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    May 18, 2011
    Messages:
    6,081
    Likes Received:
    2,217
    5 grand for a long out of use loco of limited use requiring full restoration? Is that the sort of money diesels fetch? I'm amazed!
     
  4. Wenlock

    Wenlock Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2008
    Messages:
    2,028
    Likes Received:
    1,319
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Bus Driver
    Location:
    Loughton Essex
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I expect that's not much over scrap value. 32 tonnes of good quality steel, with a little non-ferrous to top it off.
     
    Reading General likes this.
  5. burmister

    burmister Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2008
    Messages:
    283
    Likes Received:
    281
    Ideally we would like the 8 cylinder Gardner engine at least to go to good home, be restored and run, rather than broken up for spares.

    Gardeners are highly thought of especially in the marine world. Have a look at one here : to see what a proper marine restoration looks like. Value in that condition would be in excess of £15K

    Fit a few things like direct drive raw water pump etc and a ex railway or fire pump engine could be and have been converted into propulsion units.

    Or perhaps a stationary engine fan would be interested to buy it mount it on a trailer and run it at Vintage shows such as the Dorset Great Steam Fair where it would be one of the smaller exhibits.



    Brian
     
  6. Wenlock

    Wenlock Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2008
    Messages:
    2,028
    Likes Received:
    1,319
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Bus Driver
    Location:
    Loughton Essex
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Certainly the 8L3 used in an 03 or 04 loco is a useful machine. If I had the money I'd buy it as a spare for that reason alone. That marine version seems to have more polished bare metal than I'm used to seeing on a loco.
     
  7. flaman

    flaman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2012
    Messages:
    2,292
    Likes Received:
    2,048
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Semi-retired farmer, railway & museum owner
    Location:
    Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex
    The 8L3 and it's smaller brothers, the 6L3 and downwards is, IMO, the best power unit that was ever fitted to a diesel shunter- both highly reliable and economical. At Mangapps, we have a total of 6 03s, 2 04s, an 0-4-0 Drewry and a Hudswell-Clarke, all fitted with these engines. Almost all are currently operational and are the backbone of our operations.
    One reason for the additional polished metal on the marine version is that several fittings which were cast iron on the land-based units (water pumps, for instance) were bronze on the sea-going ones, for anti- corrosion reasons.
     
  8. burmister

    burmister Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2008
    Messages:
    283
    Likes Received:
    281
    Yes as an ex marine man it is a disppointment to me and relief to my fellow volunteers that I have been restricted to just a few brass and stainless steel nameplates, gauge boards and copper pipe work on the class 10 Colonel Tomline, 33063 and 207 1317. Of these, the EE lump in the 207 has offered the most visible opportunities for my Brasso tin and polishing rag and this is still work in progress.

    Brian
     
    flaman likes this.

Share This Page