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garden shed for sale in Dorset

Discussion in 'Heritage Rolling Stock' started by TonyMay, Nov 17, 2013.

  1. TonyMay

    TonyMay Member

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    This

    http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/10814526.Contents_of_Birkin_House_near_Dorchester_up_for_auction/

    Anyone got any info? Anyone want it? if so, better get you're pennies together quick.
     
  2. nick813

    nick813 Well-Known Member Loco Owner

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    Hello,
    I will go and see if I can find out a bit more.
    Not far from me in Poole.
    Nick
     
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    cct man Part of the furniture

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  4. nick813

    nick813 Well-Known Member Loco Owner

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    Hello,
    The house, Birkin House, is for sale at £1.75 million :for this you get:
    • 9 bedrooms, 10 bathrooms
    • 6 reception rooms, cellars
    • 1 bedroom staff flat, attics
    • gardens & grounds, 10.2 acres
    A bit beyond my means.

    Nick
     
  5. nick813

    nick813 Well-Known Member Loco Owner

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    Auction viewing times are:
    Birkin House, Stinsford, Dorchester, Dorset DT2 8QD
    Saturday, 23rd November 10am - 3pm
    Sunday, 24th November 10am - 3pm
    Monday, 25th November 9am - 5pm
    And on the morning of the sale day from 9am


    NB
     
  6. nick813

    nick813 Well-Known Member Loco Owner

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    The Carriage is:
    L&BSCR 8 compartment .
    Has been cut in half.
    Gas light fitting still in situ in many compartments.
     

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    61624 Part of the furniture

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    Worth saving for just the fittings I'd have thought, but hopefully the IoWSR or Bluebell are on the case!
     
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    61624 "Worth saving for just the fittings I'd have thought, but hopefully the IOWSR or Bluebell are on the case! "


    Sure are! The IOWSR have just put an almost identical coach into service after a lengthy restoration.
     
  9. paulhitch

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    At the risk of being a little waspish, the IOWSR vehicle is a bit of a reproach to the Bluebell who had the opportunity to get it. When they were not interested, one of Mr. Walker's predecessors acquired it as a private venture. Later it was taken over as a railway project but sadly the person who started the restoration did not live to see it run, approximately 80 years after it was used previously. The Bluebell lacks a Brighton Railway all third and this would be a great opportunity to make up the deficiency but they have plenty to do on the C&W side as it is. It is all too easy to make "helpful" suggestions involving work by others!

    PH
     
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    It was only due to the Bluebell contacting the IOWSR that 2403 was given a chance. Restoration took over 20yrs, as Paul has said it was a predecessor of mine who took it on as a private venture. When it was officially launched the cutting of the ribbon was performed by his widow, we do not forget those who made it all possible.
     
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  11. Jamessquared

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    As Gary says, my understanding about 2403 was that the Bluebell contacted the IoWSR when they realised that they wouldn't have the capacity to restore it themselves in a realistic timescale - thus ensuring that at least the coach did have a viable future, albeit overseas… Which, I'd suggest, is a good outcome rather than a reproach to our C&W department!

    With regard the coach in Dorset - one significant issue to any potential restoration is going to be sourcing a suitable underframe. But we'll wait and see just what, if anything, happens. It would certainly make a nice match with our existing 48ft Brighton first (which, I believe, is on an LNWR underframe!).

    Tom
     
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    As a matter of interest, would you have had the third or the first, given the choice?

    Paul H
     
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    Pass, and I'm not sure it was ever really a choice to be made.

    At a guess, given the other pre-grouping Southern bogie coaches we have, I'd suggest the 1st is more useful, because we have lots of 3rd (the 100 seaters, the birdcage etc) but the Brighton 1st is the only pre-group bogie 1st we have (ignoring the Mets, which are essentially a self-contained set).

    Tom
     
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    The fore-going raises an interesting discussion about the number of locos and vehicles that were saved from scrap by one person/organisation only to be continued/finished by another. East Coast Joint Stock 189 being only one of many examples.
     
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    Yes, there is indeed very close cooperation, friendships, sharing of information and exchanges of spares, over many decades, between Bluebell & IoW C&W departments. Indeed we have already discussed this carriage body near Dorchester between ourselves and the IoW. The guy who rescued 2403 for IoW was a volunteer on both Bluebell and IoW.
    The Bluebell does not "lack a Brighton all-third" - we already have two of them (albeit not bogie coaches), one of which is an early Billinton-era coach, as this one near Dorchester is. That carriage is currently under restoration at Horsted Keynes.
    The Bluebell's collection of carriages includes over 30 SR and pre-grouping carriages which are in store awaiting restoration, most of which we hope to restore one day, in addition to our operational fleet of 36 carriages, plus another eight currently under restoration or overhaul. Keeping this lot ticking over is no small undertaking.
    So far as LBSCR carriages are concerned, we have two which were rescued from bungalows and restored and now running, two more under restoration, and own 7 others. There is a limit to what we can store, and to our evental ambitions, so you'll excuse us for sometimes having to make hard decisions! We do not take them lightly, and take them under the guidance of the Railway's agreed long-term plan, considering also the vehicle's rarity, how it fits into established or planned sets of carriages, and its condition and restorability.
    Would we have preferred 2403 over 7598? With our ten other ordinary southern-area pre-grouping bogie coaches being seconds/thirds (although we might restore 1050 as originally built as a composite), it's actually useful in terms of getting the right balance of accommodation to have 7598 with its first-class accommodation.
    Finally, we congratulate the IoWSR on, and indeed have joined in celebrating, the return of 2403 to service (many of us have already been over to the IoW to travel on it) and certainly do not consider it a reproach to ourselves! Quite the opposite, in fact.
    Richard (who worked on the restoration of 7598 over a period of a decade).
     
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    Hello,
    I see that it is to remain in Dorset..'Local' man............
    I wonder if we might see in Wool?
    Met a Chap. who was V V keen on it to use as a cafe........

    well will see.........
     
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    I see that it sold for £2300, I hope that doesn't start a trend of disposal of grounded bodies by auction.
     
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    Any grounded body that costs more than nothing is too expensive! Even bodies that are donated come with costs i.e. cranage and transport plus the disruption to your planned workload. Never mind the eventual costs of restoration and providing and modifying an underframe. The end result is well worthwhile though :)
     
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