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Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by KHARDS, Aug 28, 2009.

  1. 22A

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    The gala at the start of October is the diesel gala, so that's a weekend off for the steam fleet.
     
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    Isnt the 4F at Crewe still?
     
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    But there's a "1968 - The Final Days" event on 13th/13th September and 73050 was due to appear so that's one third of the advertised steam fleet out of action. So the 4F will be flying the flag for steam on its own on services to Peterborough.
     
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    It's very interesting however unsuprising to see that the NVR has re-discovered it's languishing fleet of foreign locomotives only in it's hour of need. What are the chances that 5485 etc will be forgotten again as soon as 73050 has been fixed?

    The NVR is in an advantageous position (or at least was) of having a few medium power locomotives that are more economical than their UK counterparts requiring only minor attention to return them to service (1178, 64.305 and B101) however the line has seemed only too quick to shun it's foreign image that won them so much favour over the past few years - and I can't help but think it's now beginning to cost them dearly.

    Come back foreigners, all is forgiven.....at least until 73050 is back in action?
     
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    Some things to pick you up on regarding the 3 engines mentioned:

    1178 is currently in bits being overhauled with fitters time when there available away from the running locomotives.

    64305 is in need of a complete overhaul (including an air pump if i recall correctly)

    B101 needs most of it's firebox stays redoing and retubing before we even get too the running gear etc, but i understand plans are afoot.

    5485 was withdrawn due to issues last year which are now being rectified knowing that other engines were not going to be available, it's just unlucky 73050 failed before the repairs on 5485 are complete.
     
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    If only it was that simple. Most if not all the foreign locos are privately owned so overhaul has to be with the approval of the owner and depending on what agreements are in place it may need a major financial commitments from said owners. Also some of the foreign fleet have left the railway. The Swedish 2-6-4T was taken away by the parents of the owner after he sadly passed away, the owner of the Danish 2-6-4T sold it back to the Danes and the owner of the Nord 4-6-0 has sold it back to France. Of those that remain on the railway it's not possible to overhaul them all at once and as I've already said, there's the added complication of private ownership.
     
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    I was under the impression 64 350 was owned by the railway who left it's air pump to 4472 when it went to Australia. This was returned and I think Scotman now has it's own pump
     
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    You could well be correct. It was privately owned when it first came to the UK - I remember it steaming up and down in Bridgnorth yard many years ago - but ownership could well have changed on arrival at the NVR.
     
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    I presume that the newsflash was about D9009 sitting on the deck. If it was, the page has been updated and it's now been deleted.
     
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    It just said a derailment.
     
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    Technically, no, it'd be capable. Realistically, though, it probably wouldn't do it much good on a regular basis...
     
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    D9009 derailed on the points leading into the yard. Front bogie negotiated them Ok but the rear bogie jumped off. Has blocked access in and out of the yard and the headshunt where the dmu is parked so no service today. Attempts to rerail the loco have so far failed and looks like it will be a specialist job for a contractor. Was told that DBS have quoted £9000 to do the job. Other quotes awaited apparently.
     
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    Having just seen some pics of the derailment, it's plain to see that the dmu isn't in the headshunt so that piece of info I received is duff. Not sure why the dmu wasn't used on the Sunday but being blocked in the headshunt isn't the reason.
     
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    If there's stock in both platforms (as there normally is), and all the shunters are in the yard the DMU would be unable to move them I suppose.

    Though I've just heard that the standard 5 is now fixed subject to a test run.
     
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    Yes, the dmu could have been stuck in the other platform with the continental stock in the way.

    Good news re 73050. We have a sales stand at the Gala so the more locos the NVR can put in traffic, the more people will attend hopefully and the more money we'll take.
     
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    I was really hoping to see 4F 44422 as originally advertised at this event. In the last few days it has disappeared off the website but there is no explanation, does anyone know if it will be there or not? If not, will anything else be likely to take its place?

    Glad the 5MT seems to be looking up, well done guys.

    Regards

    Paul
     
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    73050 was in bits when i was down there today but definately on the road to being back runnable, also of interest they are replacing the air brake pump so there "shouldn't" be any more issues with the air brakes on her.

    They could have feasibley worked out to run some form of DMU service..... if the DMU was serviceable! which at present it is not.
     

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