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South Devon Explorer 27/05/23

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by banana patch, May 21, 2023.

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  1. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    How much difference is there between the adhesion weights of a Jubilee and a Castle? Provided the Jubilee can avoid slipping, less available power from the cylinders should only result in lower speed, not a stall.
     
    MellishR, May 25, 2023
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  2. torgormaig

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    8+POB

    Peter
     
    torgormaig, May 25, 2023
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  3. Big Al

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    And that begs the question. So in an indirect way from the TOC, and that's unusual but welcome, it has been established that the trip will run as everyone would hope but more importantly, as per normal arrangements over the Devon Banks.

    I'm not booked on this but I do feel for those who had booked and might have been worrying about what would happen like @1020 Shireman, for example.. It doesn't affect me but presumably the information that went out to the paying public didn't make clear that the diesels would come off at Bristol, go back on at Taunton, and the train would run with unassisted steam.

    All a bit sad really but at least the unofficial grapevine got there in the end and most importantly, the passengers have been reassured. I hope it goes well.
     
    Big Al, May 25, 2023
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  4. banana patch

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    Which begs the question which coach has been taken off? My coach is g and e ticket clearly stated 3 premier 2 1st class 3 standard is it permitted to take off brake?1
     
    banana patch, May 25, 2023
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    I would suggest that one of the 3 standard coaches is the brake on this occasion.

    Seriously - it seems like a lot of unnecessary froth has been generated because people who weren't in possession of the facts jumped to the wrong conclusion.
     
    6026 King John, May 25, 2023
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    That is what was said the letter to passengers stated back at post#2. Standard being the buffet, half brake and a TSO. Which to my mind makes the buffet coach F and the TSO coach G.
    8 passenger coaches (or 7.5 to be pedantic), a kitchen and POB. Of course that makes 10 and does not quite align with what the man who should know if he is the return guard said in post #42.
    I did once steward a Bristol Weymouth where the POB was used in place of a half brake brake, but there was of course no diesel only legs on that.

    Still without the froth there would not be much to read on here would there?
     
    Gladiator 5076, May 25, 2023
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    Got told 8+POB was close to 100% but not absolutely finalised on Monday so didn't post.
     
    1020 Shireman, May 25, 2023
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    Yup there are. Got told 8+POB was close to 100% on Monday but not absolutely finalised. Thanks for confirming. Happy day.
     
    1020 Shireman, May 25, 2023
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    I think that's the point really, on Monday 5 days before the run "things aren't 100% finalised", ultimately Network Rail and the TOC have to come to an agreement or the train can't run, the Tour Operators, support crew and passengers don't know anything for definite until things are finalised......
    Even then events can and do change at the last minute... BIL last weekend etc Crystal ball anyone ??
     
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    pete12000, May 25, 2023
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    1020 Shireman, May 25, 2023
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  11. Big Al

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    The buffet car has been removed with refreshments in Standard being run out of the brake I believe. Hence load of 8 plus POB
     
    Big Al, May 27, 2023
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    Bahamas dep BTM a few mins late. NO DIESEL !! [BJ]
     
    free2grice, May 27, 2023
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  13. Big Al

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    Even time BRI to TAU start to stop.
     
    Big Al, May 27, 2023
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    11 early Plymouth and 19 early at one point. Held up by a XC! Is there anything this loco can’t do?
     
    gricerdon, May 27, 2023
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    It would be nice to see it over Shap on its current form.
     
    LMarsh1987, May 27, 2023
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    Not exactly unusual to be delayed by XC Don.
     
    Gladiator 5076, May 27, 2023
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    So there I am Working my dog at Exeter dog show, when Bahamas comes storming past at a fair old lick. Spooked the dog. Must be the only time I have not been pleased to see a steam loco.
     
    mrKnowwun, May 27, 2023
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  18. Big Al

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    Hemerdon 13. Whiteball 51 after a quiet spell mid climb
     
    Big Al, May 27, 2023
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    horace, May 27, 2023
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    A solution nobody here had contemplated. Well done to whichever of the authorities came up with that solution to keep the train to the required length
     
    gricerdon, May 28, 2023
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