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locomotive designs of the Caledonian Railway

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  1. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    The Caledonian Railway 812 and 652 Classes were 0-6-0 steam tender locomotives designed by John F. McIntosh for the Caledonian Railway and introduced in 1899. They had the same boiler type as the 721 “Dunalastair” Class 4-4-0s. They were nicknamed "Jumbos"
    75 new photos added to this collection including this photo taken at Wick
    57585 outside Wick shed 8th August 1960
    https://tinyurl.com/mrxffudp
    New photos start here of LMS era
    17551
    https://tinyurl.com/4996bzmk
    to 17613
    https://tinyurl.com/4httyhn5

    B.R. era starts here with
    57550 Dalry Road shed c1959
    https://tinyurl.com/2547x7vu
    to 57560
    https://tinyurl.com/2p8pjv33
    to 57580
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9xjhzy
    to 57597
    https://tinyurl.com/yyjj5yhh
    to 57686 Dawsholm shed May 1952
    https://tinyurl.com/2j2ehkab

    Neil
     
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    I have added a new collection of photos featuring McIntosh’s Caledonian Railway 908 Class
    The Caledonian Railway 908 Class were 4-6-0 mixed traffic locomotives designed by John F. McIntosh and built in 1906, at the Caledonian Railway's own St. Rollox Works.
    Just 11 photos in this collection and only one in the Caledonian Railway era
    914 Glasgow
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9c9nzf

    all the rest are in the LMS era
    starting here with
    14614 Beattock
    https://tinyurl.com/4e98m44e

    Neil
     
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    79/107 =Thurso
     
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    3/11 = Dundee [duplicates 2/11]
     
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    I have added some new photos featuring McIntosh’s 711 class 0-6-0 ‘Jumbos’
    9 new photos start here with
    57394 Dawsholme 10th June 1950
    https://tinyurl.com/4xuh29nh

    Neil.
     
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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    I have added a new collection of photos of the McIntosh Caledonian Railway class 29 & 782 0-6-0T Class
    The Caledonian Railway 782 Class was a class of 0-6-0T steam locomotives designed by John F. McIntosh and introduced in 1896. The 29 Class was similar but fitted with condensing apparatus. The locomotives were taken into London, Midland and Scottish Railway (LMS) ownership in 1923 and into British Railways (BR) ownership in 1948.
    Numbering
    29 Class
    LMS numbers 16231-16239
    BR numbers 56231-56239
    782 Class
    LMS numbers 16240-16376
    BR numbers 56240-56376
    Including this colour photo of
    57303 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/29xzuxav
    LMS era photos start here
    16237 at Polmadie 1945
    https://tinyurl.com/bdhzbe4n
    to
    16373 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/3vdyx84t
    B.R. era photos start here with
    56231 at Carlisle
    https://tinyurl.com/5avdtk92
    to
    56234 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/3kc4skap
    to
    56305 Inverness round house shed
    https://tinyurl.com/yckkepd5
    56376 Motherwell c1954
    https://tinyurl.com/32fhedaf

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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    I have added over 60 new photos of the McIntosh C.R.Class 439 0-4-4T class, plus later locos built by the LMS post 1923
    Including this photo of little and large
    55213 at Perth is passed by 60009 Union of South Africa 24th June 1954
    https://tinyurl.com/yc3w75h5

    LMS era photos start here with
    15183 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/y3f5kjn6
    to
    15249
    https://tinyurl.com/yjutv3yk

    B.R. era starts here with
    55185 Elgin East 11th September 1958
    https://tinyurl.com/5d6ufs6h
    to
    56171 Dawsholm shed 30th May 1961
    https://tinyurl.com/4h8kjryz

    Neil
     
  8. Fred Kerr

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    79 / 109 = Glasgow St Enoch

    88 / 1-09 = Killin Junction ?

    105 / 109 = Glasgow St Enoch

    107 / 109= Glasgow St Enoch

    109 109 = NOT a Class 439; suggest this is a Class 498 0-6-0T
     
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    88/109 -- curved platform and signal box position rules out Killin Jct Fred. Most likely Ballinluig on an Aberfeldy train, there are other shots of 55217 there on Google, maybe from the same batch.
     
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    106/109 is Killin .
     
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    I have added a new collection featuring McIntosh Caledonian Railway 498 Class 0-6-0T Dock Tank

    The Caledonian Railway 498 Class was a class of 0-6-0Ts built for dock shunting. They were designed by John F. McIntosh for the Caledonian Railway (CR) and introduced in 1911. Twenty-three were built. They passed to the London, Midland and Scottish Railway (LMS) in 1923 and to British Railways (BR) in 1948.

    Including this colour photo of
    56168 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/bdtrt4s5

    just 13 photos in this collection
    1 LMS era photo here with
    16163 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/su2u3bab

    B.R. era photos start here with
    56152 seen here at Eastfield (keeping company wIth A Reid J88)
    https://tinyurl.com/3s7kbkm4

    Neil
     
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    I have a lot of new photos of Dugald Drummond and later John F. McIntosh Caledonian Railway 264 and 611 class 'Caledonian Pugs'
    The Caledonian Railway 264 and 611 classes were 0-4-0 saddle tank locomotives designed by Dugald Drummond and built by Neilson and Company in 1885. Later examples were built at St Rollox Works under the direction of John F. McIntosh in 1895, 1900, 1902 and 1908.
    These small shunters remained in long service under the LMS (who gave all Neilson saddle locomotives the power class 0F, shared by many other types) and British Railways, with the last of the class withdrawn in 1962. The two classes, sometimes referred to by the generic term "pugs", were mainly used as works shunters in the area around Glasgow, Scotland, often running with home-made tenders to improve their small coal capacity.Like most 0-4-0 tanks of the period they had outside cylinders and inside slide valves driven by Stephenson valve gear. A number were later sold into private industry and several even made it as far south as Crewe where they acted as works shunters in British Railways days. None have survived into preservation.
    They are easily confused with the earlier 1882-built ex-North British Railway Class Y-9 (NBR Class G), also designed by Dugald Drummond to a similar saddle tank design, although the 264/611 are distinguished by a taller chimney and larger circular windows. Both were originally commissioned from Drummond by Neilson & Co to a standard design and were used by North British, LNER and British Railways. One NBR Y-9 shunter (No. 42 68095) has been preserved at the Bo'ness and Kinneil Railway museum.
    Construction was spread over several years, and eventually totalled 34 locomotives,
    All were built at the St Rollox Works of the Caledonian Railway. Orders Y1, Y22 and Y27 were placed by Dugald Drummond and formed the 264 Class; the remainder were ordered by John F. McIntosh and formed the 611 Class.

    Including this photo of
    56039 & 54398 Ben Alder at Dawsholme shed 30th May 1961 (54398 Ben Alder, was withdrawn in 1953 and placed in storage in the hope that it would be preserved)
    https://tinyurl.com/27fy6pcm

    Full collection starts here with LMS era
    16032
    https://tinyurl.com/yckm7meh

    B.R. era starts here with
    56011 Inverness shed 14th April 1952
    https://tinyurl.com/yc3c2kab


    Neil
     
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    The Caledonian Railway 60 Class were 4-6-0 passenger engines designed by William Pickersgill and introduced in 1916. Six were built by the Caledonian Railway at its own St. Rollox works in 1916–17, and all of them passed into LMS ownership in 1923. A further twenty locomotives of a slightly modified design were built by the LMS under the auspices of George Hughes in the period of 1925–1926.

    The 60 Class were rugged and free steaming, but were unsophisticated and of lethargic performance for their size. Although classified as passenger locomotives by the LMS, latterly they spent much of their time on goods trains and acquired the nickname Greybacks, either in reference to their long and grimy boilers or possibly as an insult from former Glasgow and South Western Railway enginemen ('greyback' being an old term for louse). Withdrawals began in 1944 but twenty three passed into British Railways ownership in 1948. The last locomotives were withdrawn from service in 1953, and all were scrapped.

    Original C.R./LMS numbers
    14650-14655/54650-54654

    Hughes LMS development of Pickersgill design
    The locomotives built by the LMS had slightly larger cylinders and weighed slightly less than the original CR locomotives
    Later LMS built locos
    14630-14649/54630-54649

    Including this photo of
    54635 Kingmoor shed 2nd June 1950
    https://tinyurl.com/2crf8zyy

    original C.R. built locos starts here with LMS era
    14651
    https://tinyurl.com/4hyaatzf

    B.R. era start here
    https://tinyurl.com/25uwa9y8

    later LMS built locos start here with LMS era
    14650 & 6251 City of Nottingham
    https://tinyurl.com/23vxn7r4

    B.R. era starts here with
    54634 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/5h6nuzez

    Neil
     
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    28 / 43 = Pert station [duplicates 27 / 43
     
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    I have added a new collection featuring W. Pickersgill 113 & 72 Class in the C.R./LMS era

    The Caledonian Railway 72 Class was a class of 4-4-0 steam locomotives introduced by William Pickersgill for the Caledonian Railway (CR) in 1920. Thirty-two locomotives were built and all survived to be taken over by the London, Midland and Scottish Railway (LMS) in 1923 and by British Railways (BR) in 1948. The earlier 113 Class (introduced in 1916), of which 16 were produced, were similar but slightly smaller. These were the Caledonian's last express passenger locomotives, and technically, the last of the Dunalastair series, and were unofficially dubbed, Dunalastair V.


    1916 6 St. Rollox Works 14461–14466 54461–54466
    1916 10 North British Locomotive Co. 14467–14476 54467–54476
    1920 10 St. Rollox Works 14477–14486 54477–54486
    1921 10 Armstrong Whitworth 14487–14496 54487–54496
    1922 12 North British Locomotive Co. 14497–14508 54497–54508
    The two classes together totalled 48 locomotives. No. 54481 was scrapped after an accident at Gollafield Junction in 1953, the remainder were withdrawn between 1959 and 1962.
    Including this photo of
    14508 along with GSWR 17823 & C.R. 17007 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/ycx3cm2n

    Full collection starts here with C.R. era
    72 and another C.R. 4-4-0 double head a service out of Carlisle
    https://tinyurl.com/bbj6nfme
    LMS era
    14461
    https://tinyurl.com/4zucbjvz
    to
    14508
    https://tinyurl.com/99e457bc

    Neil
     
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    I have added a new collection featuring W. Pickersgill 113 & 72 Class in the B.R. era

    The two classes together totalled 48 locomotives. No. 54481 was scrapped after an accident at Gollafield Junction in 1953, the remainder were withdrawn between 1959 and 1962.

    Including this photo of
    54508 Stored out of use at Stranraer shed from 1959 to 1964 seen here on the 20th August 1963 finally scrapped in July 1964
    https://tinyurl.com/3krw7rwt

    54461-54476 Class 113 photos start here with

    54461 Carstairs 20th April 1955 Pickersgill 113 class
    https://tinyurl.com/yckvumbz

    54477-54508 Class 72 photos start here with

    54477 St Rollox May 1952
    https://tinyurl.com/2xuksmaz

    Neil
     
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    I have added a new collection featuring W. Pickersgill Caledonian Railway 191 Class 4-6-0

    The Caledonian Railway 191 Class were 4-6-0 passenger engines designed by William Pickersgill and built in 1922 by the North British Locomotive Company. The class was intended for use on the Callander and Oban line, to augment the 55 Class 4-6-0s and replace elderly 179 Class 4-4-0s, and they were thus known as the New Oban Bogies, however, they were also used on other Caledonian lines.
    The locomotives were not completely successful, having a reputation for being short of steam unless skilfully fired, and the dubious distinction of the highest total locomotive hammerblow of any locomotive class inherited by the LMS upon its formation in 1923. The lack of superheating was a curious omission from a type introduced as late as 1922. This may not have helped their steaming problems.
    All locomotives withdrawn by 1945

    Including this colour photo of
    14622 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/bdepj7y5

    Full collection of 16 photos starts here with
    14619 Oban 1933
    https://tinyurl.com/4janpem8
    To
    14626 St Rollox shed June 1936
    https://tinyurl.com/yusjkrdw

    Neil
     
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    Hi Neil. That first picture of 14619 looks to have been taken in Glen Lochy, between Dalmally and Tyndrum, rather than near Taynuilt. The train contains an interesting collection of vehicles.

    Peter
     
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    I have added a new collection featuring W. Pickersgill Caledonian Railway 159 & 431 Class 0-4-4T, and later LMS developed locos
    159 Class, 10 built 1915-1922
    CR numbers 159, 161–163, 418, 425–426, 430, 435–436
    LMS numbers 15227-15236
    BR numbers 55227-55236

    431 Class, 4 built 1922
    CR numbers 431–434
    LMS numbers 15237–15240
    BR numbers 55237–55240

    Including this photo of
    55230 crossing Connel Bridge with a service from Ballachulish 11th August 1959
    https://tinyurl.com/yeyph4cu

    full collection starts here with
    LMS era
    https://tinyurl.com/yc8emnhu
    B.R. era starts here
    55230 Oban shed 31st May 1961
    https://tinyurl.com/yd7pj6jx
    to
    55239 Forfar shed 2nd June 1961
    https://tinyurl.com/4nc44x7w

    LMS developed locos

    LMS numbers 15260–15269
    BR numbers 55260–55269
    55261 & 57451 Carstairs 4th June
    https://tinyurl.com/44xt438p
    to
    55269 Inverness shed last built loco of various C.R. designers LMS developement of Pickersgill C.R. 431 class 0-4-4T
    https://tinyurl.com/3pmuzf3e

    Neil
     

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