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Stanier Princess Royal Class

Discussion in 'Photography' started by neildimmer, Oct 3, 2020.

  1. neildimmer

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    I have added a lot of new photos of Stanier Pacifics.
     
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    https://railway-photography.smugmug...46204/620046200-The-Princess-Royal-/i-cLNLzw8 = Preston ?

    https://railway-photography.smugmug...204/620046200-The-Princess-Royal-/i-ggDfk2p/A = Lune Gorge

    https://railway-photography.smugmug...-released-to-traffic-August-1935-/i-bQF6rKf/A = Rugby

    https://railway-photography.smugmug...-released-to-traffic-August-1935-/i-sBw2wJf/A = Birmingham New St

    https://railway-photography.smugmug...-released-to-traffic-September-1935/i-ktFnnfX = Oxenholme

    https://railway-photography.smugmug...-released-to-traffic-September-1935/i-KCHk4vL = Crewe

    https://railway-photography.smugmug...5/621246212-released-to-traffic-October-1935/ = Glasgow Central ?
     
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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    I have added new photos to the collection of Stanier Princess Royal Pacifics
    This collection features 6200 & 6201 46200 & 46201 built Crewe in 1933
    Including this colour photos of 6201 Princess Elizabeth at Crewe works
    https://tinyurl.com/y3unrckh
    LMS era photos start here
    6201 Princess Elizabeth with a Fowler tender at Crewe works
    https://tinyurl.com/yyrgoskg
    B.R. era start here with
    46200 Princess Royal
    https://tinyurl.com/y3vdjnpz

    Neil
     
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    Thank you for posting. I am intrigued by the image of 46203. It is coupled to at least two other locos and they are in reverse gear. The tender seems to be full, and the loco is blowing off somewhat prematurely. If it had come off Crewe North to take a train south, you would not expect it to be coupled to other locos or heading back towards Crewe North. I wonder if there was a problem with the coaler at Crewe North and they had been sent to Crewe South to be coaled? The image must have been taken after October 1955 when it was fitted with a domed boiler, but before gaining the later crest so this is probably when it was allocated to 5A.
     
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    I have added some new photos of Stanier’s Princess Royal Class
    This collection features 6206-6209 46206-46209 built Crewe in 1935
    There are quite a few photos of 46209 with the Mid-Day Scot’ including this one at Glasgow
    46209 Princess Beatrice with 'The Mid-Day Scot' at Glasgow Central 1st August 1953
    https://tinyurl.com/y4wvhvhx
    New photos from the LMS era start here
    https://tinyurl.com/yxcumx22
    B.R. era start here
    https://tinyurl.com/y48xc2gq

    Neil.
     
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    I have added some new photos of Stanier’s Princess Royal Class
    This last collection features 6210-6212 46210-46212 built Crewe in 1935
    Including this photo of
    46212 Duchess of Kent departs Rugby with 'The Mid-Day Scot with 2 other Stanier locos on the right of photo
    https://tinyurl.com/y27twnlz
    New photos start here with
    LMS era
    6211 Queen Maud at Crewe
    https://tinyurl.com/y47rw6k4
    B.R. era
    46210 Lady Patricia in the Lune Gorge
    https://tinyurl.com/y4jbvh5d

    Neil.
     
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    The Turbomotive was a modified Princess Royal Class steam locomotive designed by William Stanier, inspired by the Ljungström locomotive, and built by the London, Midland and Scottish Railway in 1935. It used turbines instead of cylinders. It was later rebuilt as a conventional locomotive 46202 Princess Anne.

    The forward turbine had 18 rows of blading. Output was 2,400 hp (1,800 kW) at 7060 rpm, corresponding to running at 62 mph (100 km/h). Boiler pressure was 250 psi (1.7 MPa). The turbine was designed to operate into a maximum back-pressure of 2 psi (14 kPa), allowing a conventional double blast-pipe to provide the boiler draught, and eliminating draught fans, which always seemed to give a disproportionate amount of trouble.

    The reverse turbine had 4 rows of blades. It was engaged by a dog clutch, activated when the reverser lever was set to "0". This was originally steam-operated by a small piston and cylinder.

    Compared to some other experimental steam locomotives of the era such as the LNER Class W1, Turbomotive was relatively successful, showing a saving of coal compared to a normal reciprocating engine and no hammer blow on the track. Because steam turbines are highly inefficient when throttled (not a problem on steamships, where turbines typically run at constant output, but a major disadvantage for a railway locomotive which has to run at different speeds), power was instead controlled by turning on a different number of nozzles (from the six available) through which steam was admitted to the turbine. One disadvantage of the design was that the small reverse turbine only had sufficient power for manoeuvring "light engine" and the locomotive always had to be turned to face forwards in order to pull a train.

    When a turbine failure occurred in 1949 it was considered uneconomic to repair during post-war austerity measures, so the locomotive was taken out of service pending a rebuild.


    Including this photo in Crewe works of the withdrawn turbomotive with B.R. numbers

    https://tinyurl.com/fv7b67d3


    Crewe shed turntable

    https://tinyurl.com/3synrcs5


    6202 at Crewe 31st May 1947

    https://tinyurl.com/sh4nm3e4


    6202 Crewe works

    https://tinyurl.com/wfwvevd3

    https://tinyurl.com/2k3bnscb


    46202 was rebuilt as a conventional locomotive in 1952, using new mainframes and a set of cylinders of the same type as used in the "Coronation" class, and named Princess Anne. On 8 October 1952, after only two months in service, it was the train engine of the double-headed Liverpool and Manchester express involved in the Harrow and Wealdstone railway accident. The locomotive was taken to Crewe, where it was deemed beyond economical repair and scrapped. The destruction of No. 46202 led to the construction of BR Standard Class 8 number 71000, Duke of Gloucester

    https://tinyurl.com/s7zhhhc

    https://tinyurl.com/95r7wpwc


    Neil
     
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    The photo of 46202 at Edge Hill is an Eric Treacy photo isn't it?
     
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    I have added some new photos of Stanier Princess Royal Pacifics
    This collection features 46200 & 46201 built in 1933
    46200 The Princess Royal & 46209 Princess Beatrice Polmadie 2nd August 1956
    https://tinyurl.com/7tdeja64
    46201 Princess Elizabeth at Euston with 'The Merseyside Express' 30th May 1953
    https://tinyurl.com/4rmb8kxj
    46201 princess Elizabeth at Euston
    https://tinyurl.com/s22rvyue
    46201 Princess Elizabeth Carlisle Kingmoor 21st August 1962
    https://tinyurl.com/x9tr55r8
    46201 Princess Elizabeth unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/5abm3d2k

    Neil
     
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    I have added some new photos to the collection of Stanier Princess Royal class locos
    This collection features 46206-46209 built 1939
    Including this photo taken 3 days after I was born
    46208 Princess Helena Victoria with 'The Merseyside Express' headboard at Camden 27th November 1956
    https://tinyurl.com/bjx97473
    7 new photos start here with
    46207 Princess Arthur of Connaught Euston 31st August 1961
    https://tinyurl.com/bjx97473

    Neil
     
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    20/68 = Crewe

    29 / 68 = Crewe ? [Note coal dispenser same as previous image]

    64 / 68 = Oxenholme

    65 / 68 = Glasgow Central
     
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    24/31= Camden ?
     
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