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Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by martin1656, Apr 10, 2017.

  1. Fireline

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    I believe there is also an element of seeing how well this one holds up, as previous B&C efforts have faded horribly.
     
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    martin1656 Nat Pres stalwart Friend

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    B&C does tend to fade, I suppose it depends on how long you expect a paint job to last for, I never liked the dark green we used to paint the MK1's in, I would have preferred BR(S) green for the Mk 1 coaches plus having a mix of KESR dark green and two vehicles in BR(S) Livery I thought made it look like an miss match when you mixed some rakes You can always repaint them Chocolate and Cream I guess, as in a few years I would think the active locos will have GWR linage
     
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    The 'authentic livery' thing gets my goat somewhat, as it's all too often a case of 'choose some random date as a sacred fossilisation point and woe betide anyone with the temerity to question it'.

    The K&ESR is a company in it's own right, just as it was pre-1948, with the perfect right, now as then, to adopt whatever livery they see fit for their stock. It's not as if any of Col.Stephens' lines never bought second hand ex-mainline kit, back in the day. Seeing MKIs in the unique and IMHO well-suited K&ESR livery makes a nice change. Well, I think so, at any rate.

    That's that off my chest ..... I feel much better now! :)
     
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    You do realise that this is utter heresy, and that no livery can be considered that doesn't absolutely accord with BR or the Big 4 predecessor (or Big 4 predecessor) livery standards;). And especially not one that is bespoke to a preserved railway.
     
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    Well of course, not every Mk.1 can authentically carry every Mk.1 livery either. People get quite excited about things like a loco carrying a livery that only a different class member carried, but nobody seems to wory when it's coaches. Why not? If you want 'authentic' Mk.1 coaches you're going to end up with a mish-mash of liveries on most preserved lines, unless you choose blue & grey of course.
     
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    +1 from me.
    As a fomer DMU driver on the Epping Ongar Railway, we got plenty of criticism for the non-authentice blue livery. :rolleyes: I doubt many of the EOR volunteers would have voted in favour of that livery (although I personally thought it looked quite nice (but obviously not as good as green with brass trinkets ;))), but we respected the choice of the former owners of the railway (and there were certainly more important things to be critising those former owners about!)
     
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    I'm not sure how they agreed on the Camilla name for the new RU but years ago 'DIANA' (another RU) was getting a repaint and as the sides were being rubbed down, and Charles had just separated from his wife, some wag chalked 'CAMILLA' where her name used to be. Cheeky! I thought.

    Little did he know....
     
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    A name has not yet been decided. "Camilla" is a 'working title' for the restoration project.

    As a kitchen car I understand it is likely to carry a number rather than a name. ("Diana" has seating for passengers and thus is entitled to a name, even though those seats are no longer used for the public)
     
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    Will she be getting the correct extended bunker back after the overhaul? It looks very odd seeing an ex-island Terrier with a short bunker...
     
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    I have today seen photos showing the old bunker marked up for cutting away. And a statement that the new steel for the island pattern bunker is on order.

    (Photos not yet in a public site so I cannot link here)
     
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    I may be in a minority, but I’ve never felt the enlarged IoW bunkers did much for the aesthetics of those locos to which they were fitted - least of all the O2s.

    (I once made a similar comment on an Isle of Wight Railway forum - and I’d here like to give my thanks to the Metropolitan Police witness protection service for their continuing support over the last eighteen months).

    Tom
     
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    Aesthetically I think I agree.
    It might however help with the longer run if the RVR do manage to connect to KESR at Bodiam.
     
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