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Lakelander 14/8/19 (Saphos Trains)

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by Steamie Boxes, Aug 6, 2019.

  1. Steamie Boxes

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    With the train only next week, does anyone know what will be up front or will it be a repeat of last time using the Brit to Carlisle then the Black 5 round the coast
     
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    Hope so! Don't think Royal Scot is back in one piece, certainly not had a test run.
     
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    Didn't think the Brit fitted around the coast?
     
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    Says on the saphos website, they’ve got Special Clearance for the coast
     
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    First Brit down the Coast since 1967. Kingmoors allocation used to work down regularly before 12A and 12D shut 31st December 1967.
     
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    But don't forget that 71000 has made more recent visits to the coast including 24/02/2007 and 3/07/2010
     
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    71000 has but no 'Brit' and as 71000 was never allocated up here, its visits weren't particularly significant. However a 'Brit' certainly is, especially on the M&C where they were regulars working out of 12A.
     
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    Rather hoped the 5 would do the coast again as a proving run before the Heart of Wales on Sept 7th. Has it run since the first Lakelander?
     
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    Appalling timings for the return supplied late by NR. 4 hours in Carlisle, 1632 departure and 2320 arrival back in Crewe via various loops on the wcml and a 20 minute stop at Arnside.... same timetable as May, why the later path? Not good at all.
     
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    I was going to go and see it at Ravenglass, but it’ll just have to be my local now
     
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    Reminiscent of 'Days Out Ltd' days out!!
     
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    Have to agree this is now a shocker and nearly 3 hours later than the outline timings. I had resigned myself to having to drive to Shrewsbury from Mid-Wales, last Cambrian connection is 20:10 off Crewe, but this now arrives after the last Shrewsbury service at 23:14!! So looks like a 2.5 hour drive home from Crewe after an unnecessary marathon. Crewe is a great starting point due to its rail connections across the country, it is useless if the train arrives back after these have all departed. I would imagine there will be many unhappy passengers at this result.
    Personally I would have preferred less time in Carlisle and earlier arrival back or (dare I say) if this was not feasible diesel back from Preston.
     
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    I was thinking it would've been the same timings as the run in May
     
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    Can't even jump ship at Preston. The last connection for Shrewsbury departs 10mins before the charter arrives at 21:43!!
     
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    In May I think steam came off at Carnforth with diesel home, but I still think the timings should have been closer than these.
     
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    Just advised by Saphos this has been retimed to 1330 off Carlisle 1930 back into Crewe which is much better. Well done Saphos - great customer service!
     
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    Good news. I guess the northbound will also be retimed. 12:33 arrival currently would be less than an hour to turn and service.
     
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    Outward timings unchanged - slick operating required at Carlisle.....
     
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    Glad to see some common sense has prevailed. Hopefully some brisk running over Shap will give a little longer in Carlisle, the support crew will need it that's for sure - unless LSL have some contacts in F1 Williams team! However, I should think they are also glad for a much earlier Crewe arrival.
    Thank you Saphos.
     
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