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Rother Valley Railway

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by nine elms fan, Nov 4, 2012.

  1. Mark Thompson

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    thank you Tom, you just beat me to it!
     
  2. paulhitch

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    Sorry but no. I was pointing out that, contrary to what was said, the is indeed "much else" for the tourist industry thereabouts. It won't do the R.V.R. project any good if people let their "inner gricer" get the better of them and exaggerate its benefits in the same way the other side exaggerates problems..

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    Go and read what he wrote again...

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    It's like talking to a child. Do you think he does it deliberately?
     
  5. paulhitch

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    I have. If he did not mean the was not much for the tourist industry "around there," he should not have said so. I do agreee with his comments about the Daily Mail though.
     
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    He said the exact opposite.

    You are the one who is pitching this as a straight "rural vs. gricer" dispute (post 557), ignoring any other viewpoint. Mark correctly suggested that there is a third constituency, the local tourism industry, and they are an important stakeholder (post 558). It is in that context that you need to read his following sentence: he stated "There's not much else [other than the tourist industry] around these parts" - in other words, the complete opposite of what you are suggesting he said.

    He explicitly meant that the tourist industry was an important contributor to the locality and therefore its views are important. So far from exaggerating the importance of the RVR, he is saying that it will be a contributor to what is already a mainstay of the local economy (which you confirmed by listing other attractions) and therefore, far from just being a "rural vs. gricer" debate as you are so keen to portray it, the views of the local tourism industry are a very valid group to listen to. In that context, it is worth remembering that neighbouring tourist attractions tend not to be direct rivals, but rather, there is a symbiotic relationship in which the more such attractions there are, the more attractive the area becomes for people to visit, to the benefit of all. Hence the argument that the RVR will strengthen a key local part of the economy, and also why brilliant attractions in otherwise barren areas often struggle.

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    Ok, let me spell it out. " There is not much around here, apart from the tourist industry itself." as a connected railway would act as a conduit between several prime tourist sites, and a primary means of access, ( Tonbridge to Hastings line) they should surely be given a say in the matter.
    I hope that is now understood.
     
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    Just found this in the comments section in the Daily Mail article. this is by someone called Shirley, from Bexhill.
    I have no way of verifying this statement, but it is interesting nonetheless:

    "I wonder if those supporting Mr & Mrs Ainsley are aware that they are currently trying to get planning through for 160 houses on land that they own in Little Common. This site is is adjacent to the Pevensey Levels and is a RAMSAR, SSSI and SAC designated area. They seem to be very keen to get this planning through with no thought for the existing residents, wildlife, Heritage or the inevitable traffic issues that will no doubt ensue. NOT IN MY BACK YARD seems to be their motto."
     
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    160 houses is about 10 acres .... at probably £0.5M / acre for developable land. Embattled families eh?
     
  11. paulhitch

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    Now we know what he intended to say! Thank you.

    The evidence is mixed as whether extensions result in significant increase in business once the initial "curiosity period" wears off.

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    Simon,

    Certainly it used to be said that the most profitable farm crop was a field of caravans! Rather more dependably so than a main line connection for a tourist railway.

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    Thing is, as in these cases you only get told what the land owners want you to know, the RVR should and will have a right of reply, but lets look at the larger picture.
    I am also a resident of East Sussex and whilst i don't know the area intimately i have looked around Robertsbridge and its in need of something to breathe life back into it, the arguments raised by the protesters can be disproved, wild life often thrives in railway corridors wild flowers etc Farmer hoade has as far as i can remember never even attempted to talk to the RVR, preferring to take the attitude of "over my dead body" when others have talked, and been amenable to sell, much of the former formation is actually overgrown and not in agricultural use from what can be gathered from drone footage .
     
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    Im sure that all attempts at contact, plus any manner of forthcoming replies, have beeen meticulously recorded. The truth will out, no doubt in front of the Secretary of State.
     
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    What do you mean, "we"?
    Speak for yourself, you cheeky so-and-so.
     
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    Those who read the thread.

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    You'd know all about the wouldn't you Paul.
     
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    That's rich. I've been on the receiving end of some of your more patronising caustic comments
     
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    If they have been personal then I apologise.

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