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Original Paint Jobs

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Tim Light, Jan 4, 2017.

  1. gwalkeriow

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    It was repainted at Didcot in the early 1980s, Andy Williams of Walker and Williams and the SVR lined it out.
     
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    Thanks for clarifying it. I suspected that it had been repainted at some point but couldn't think when.
     
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    92220 Evening Star was repainted at Didcot, there is a paint date on the tender, but I cannot rember what the date is. Somtime mid 80's I think when it was on long term loan to the GWS
     
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    Found this photo on the inter web of CoB in the think thank, I think you can see some bits that look suspiciously like they have been touched up since the Crewe paint job.

    On another note if this paint job is so special shouldn't there be more protection on the fireman side from scrapes etc from visitors? Loco37.jpg
     
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    How about 1442 in Tiverton Mueseum? GW livery but applied by BR? And how about the Scotish quartet 103, 123, Gordon Highlander and Glen Douglas? And the Y9? And while I think about it Met 23?
     
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    CoB looks a mess with the varying shades, better off repainting to a showroom finish than trying to preserve a half arsed effort that makes it look less than pristine.
     
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    I'm fairly sure the cab side of 46447 on the shed wall at Cranmore is original BR paintwork.

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    Thanks Tom - I didn't know that. I am sure that 563 has not been touched since then but I'm not sure about "Boxhill". I check it out next time I'm nearby.

    "Gladstone" had a very thorough repaint sometime in the 1970s, not long after the NRM opened if my memory serves me correctly.

    Peter
     
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    Modern era. I went there just the once around 1978/79 & was disappointed to see that the tanks had been scraped back to bare prior to repainting.

    A friend who used to work at the Science Museum reckoned that 4073 had the first two rings of cladding replaced on its boiler as they'd rusted through - caused by the asbestos drying out naturally rather than being force-dried by a steaming,

    9400 & 2516 are largely original I believe, with the exception of the buffer planks on the 94 which have been repainted whilst in STEAM.
     
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    Yes paint does decay over time, but if you keep light levels to a minimum and keep the humidity at a steady level, the rate of deterioration can be slowed considerably. I work in a historic house with paint finishes that are over 200 years old! And some of the paintings which hang on the wall are even older.

    Since genuine steam-era paint jobs are now so rare I really think it is worth trying to conserve the few which remain, even when they are now slightly less than pristine.
     
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    2516 currently shows three different shades of green, whether this is down to touching up or fading, one cannot say, but it is evident in the cab that someone has been busy with a red paint pot in the past.
     
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    Yes. Might be my eyes, but the firebox looks a very different colour to the cab.
     
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    Presumably a Neasden job? It was photographed outside Neasden works in 1961, looking pristine.
     
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    Hardly matters much when it's hidden behind all those pillars and placards. :(
     
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    103 has carried at least 2 coats of paint in preservation. The first possibly applied by the LMS, and the second when she was restored for main line running. I think the same applies to 123. In fact, looking through some old photos, 123 had different paint jobs in 1948, 1953 and 1964.

    Gordon Highlander ran in two versions of GNSR livery between 1959 and 1964.

    I don't know if any of these have been repainted since going into the museums.
     
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    All explained some posts back by someone in the know... All BR paint.
     
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    I believe that the original repaint to NSR livery was carried out at either Crewe but in subsequent rebuilds to keep No.2 (or No.72 if you go off the frames) running using parts off sister locos Walkden did some repainting to keep the livery, hence why the colour on the boiler doesn't match the tanks.
     
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    Outwith the remit of the initial posting, as it wasn't BR-applied livery (but thought it worth mentioning) - 'Winifred', the Penrhyn Hunslet, was carrying paint over half-a-century old by the time of repatriation in 2012. Also still carrying a fair amount of North Wales in certain places, as no cleaning carried out prior to shipping...
     
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    This begs another question, what's of better value, not just to enthusiasts but the public as a whole:

    1. An ex BR paint job, that was either badly done in the first place as per 46235, or has deteriated to the extent that its faded well beyond it's proper colour with awful look patches and such like.

    2. A Preservation Paintjob to an expert showroom finish that would show off a Swindon or Crewe's finest skills back in the day.
     

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