NYMR Loco news

Don't forget also that we're getting a class 26 for this season, which will be a type new to the line. I don't know if D5032 will emerge from overhaul this year, it would be good to stage a 24/25/26 lineup at some point.

 

is there anything left of 30841 eg her frames tried to look on my visit but i saw 830

 

Yup the frames and I think the wheel set still exist dumped [off the line I think] way up towards the end of the headshunt that runs part way alongside the line. Though the wheelsets could well have been removed as the boiler was for further use. The problem being that the frames are warped/twisted, hence the owners the Essex Locomotive Society bought the frames/wheelset of 825 from Sail & Steam in Brightlingsea who had bought her Woodhams [the Mid Hants or one of thier affilates bought the boiler for use on one of their S15s] with the plan to make a completely new boiler for 825. That plan fell through when they went bankrupt/were wound up. The Essex Boys then cobbled together a complete working engine 825 from the combined parts, using 841 as a source of spares. 830 being I believe bought as a similar source come very long term restoration project with it's 6 wheeler tender, as opossed to 825/841 and their bogie 8 wheeler watercart tender.

 

Amazing how things come full circle, IIRC I believe when 841 was originally purchased from Woodhams, 830 was also purchased on a 'per ton' basis as a source of spares.

Anyone know the story behind how 841's frames became twisted...???

 

Giving things a bit more thought I believe 830 had been bought by someone else with the plan to restore her, but ran out of those little paper promises' [you know the ones that say "I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of £......"], and the Essex Locomotive Society acquired her with the proviso that she be restored to working order in her own right. Rather than broken for parts, hense the rather long term nature of the restoration.

 

830 was previously owned by the Maunsell society, and was sold so they could purchase Stowe.

 

Sounds reasonable as I believe they also own an operable S15 too. Just wasn't sure off hand who the previous owner had been before the Essex Guys.

 

There's a small point that can be made, and Paul Hitch will like it, that virtually all the locos on the railway are under overhaul, apart from 30830 and 5 - and 5 has seen some work and will be picked up on once 29 is back in service. In other words no long term "wouldn't it be nice" projects in the loco department at least. In fact, and I must stress that it's just my view, there's probably scope to add one or two more, if one accepts that not everything is going to be available at the same time.

 

As @Paul42 says, 830 was previously owned by the MLS, but was sold to help fund the purchase of Stowe. The MLS also own 847.

There is a photo of her still on the Bluebell in 1999 here: http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/loco_gone.html#830; according to that page, she left in September 2000.

From memory, there are seven S15s in preservation (two Urie and five Maunsell), but the Mid Hants have an extra boiler (four boilers for three locos) and the NYMR are short of a boiler (two boilers for nominally three locos).

Tom

 

As I said wasn't sure who'd originally bought 830. Thing is without dismantling 841s frames into thier componant parts and straightening them. I seriously doubt 841 will be resurrected and therefore for the moment will be used as a source of spares. Though never say never, if 825s boiler was to be acquired from the Mid Hants. Leaving only the tender to be replaced with a new build one.....

 

I think there was a plan at one time to have a new boiler built for 830 in Poland - it was at the time that the S160 was bought and overhauled there but after it arrived in the UK I think that there was a realisation that it probably wasn't such a good, albeit cheap, plan.

 

26004 visited in 2005 so not a new type for the line.

 

Or 26024 even......

 

How about 26007 on 21st Sept 1991? Moorsline No 94 for a photo.

EDIT: Just found this photo online https://www.flickr.com/photos/rossendalian2013/20127926806

 

I think that there's quite a bit of mixing up of 825, 830 & 841 in these tales being told, never mind the mixing and matching on the locos themselves!

As for the possibility of 841 ever running again, it only needs a signwriter......

 

Well there you go, I'd forgotten about previous visiting class 26s, but then I can't really claim to be interested in diesels. As for the boiler to be built in Poland, I'd always assumed it was for 30830 as 30841/30825 had been combined into one loco, which had a boiler!

 

I thought the original plan was to build a boiler (Polish) for the boilerless 825 but was abandoned and the frames used to replace those on 841. 830 came with a boiler (which is being worked upon) much later than the experiences with the Polish boiler on the S160.

 

You are probably right - it's along time ago and it wasn't talked about much even then, I'm not sure it was every realistic proposition. I seem to remember that there were also rumours at the time of a second S160 and even of interest in a Turkish 8F.

 

.......... or someone with deep pockets!.

 

Have any 8fs ever visited the NYMR? I'd have thought they would be quite well suited to the line?
Chris