If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

VT - 4965: The Welsh Marches 29th August

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by steamvideosnet, Jun 20, 2015.

Page 1 of 6
  1. steamvideosnet

    steamvideosnet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2011
    Messages:
    1,968
    Likes Received:
    2,476
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Southampton, UK
    The times are out for the Welsh Marches with 46233, though unusually, the tour is running 'anti-clockwise' - starting at Tyseley, heading through New Street and to Hereford via Cosford and Shrewsbury Foregate Street, back via Abergavenny and Old Hill Bank.

    http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50563/2015/07/04/advanced

    http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50566/2015/07/04/advanced

    James
     
    steamvideosnet, Jun 20, 2015
    #1
  2. david1984

    david1984 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2005
    Messages:
    12,910
    Likes Received:
    1,387
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Birmingham
    I think that works better, the Marches has some decent climbs in both directions (decent pull up out of Shrewsbury for example) and finishes with Old Hill.

    First Duchess on New St - Wolves direct since ????.
     
    david1984, Jun 20, 2015
    #2
  3. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Messages:
    8,151
    Likes Received:
    5,226
    I would hope that the combination of a Class 8, a shortish train and no reversals would mean no diesel on the back for this one, but can Ben tell us for sure, please?
     
    MellishR, Jun 20, 2015
    #3
  4. 83B

    83B Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2005
    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    121
    Judging from the weather forecast for the next 4 weeks, fire risk may dictate what happens. There are going to be very hot and dry conditions according to the long range meteorological forecasts!
     
    83B, Jun 22, 2015
    #4
  5. Ben Vintage-Trains

    Ben Vintage-Trains Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2010
    Messages:
    970
    Likes Received:
    613
    Location:
    Tyseley, UK
    You are reading too much into this - I haven't accepted any times yet - either clockwise or anti-clockwise!

    As soon as there is any news, I will let you know.
     
    Ben Vintage-Trains, Jun 22, 2015
    #5
  6. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2005
    Messages:
    35,528
    Likes Received:
    9,200
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired-ish, Part time rail tour steward.
    Location:
    Northwich
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    You mean you actually take notice of long range forecasts? Most of the time they can't even get the week ahead correct.....
     
    RalphW, Jun 22, 2015
    #6
    Paul42 and osprey like this.
  7. 83B

    83B Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2005
    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    121
    Ah. You have a good point. They said February was going to be a snowy, frosty, wintry month. It wasn't. Their forecasts generally for the short term are very accurate, say for the next 7 days, but for 4 week forecasts I agree with scepticsm. Let's hope for monsoons!
     
    83B, Jun 22, 2015
    #7
  8. Robin

    Robin Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    May 7, 2012
    Messages:
    1,404
    Likes Received:
    1,769
    Location:
    Stourbridge
    Incidentally, 46233 was withdrawn from her last round trip at the Mid Norfolk gala on Sunday. A member of the platform staff advised me that this was due to a tender hot box, and that the tender would be leaving by road for repairs. Assuming his report was correct, hopefully this will be sorted in time.
     
    Robin, Jun 22, 2015
    #8
  9. LMarsh1987

    LMarsh1987 Part of the furniture Friend

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    2,891
    Likes Received:
    3,619
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    TBC
    Location:
    Birmingham & Arley
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    LMarsh1987, Jun 22, 2015
    #9
  10. Robin

    Robin Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    May 7, 2012
    Messages:
    1,404
    Likes Received:
    1,769
    Location:
    Stourbridge
    Proof that perhaps the problem which caused the withdrawal was not as serious as first thought. Or perhaps there was no problem with the Duchess, and the organisers thought the public would prefer a round trip behind the Austerity instead?
     
    Robin, Jun 22, 2015
    #10
  11. D1002

    D1002 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2011
    Messages:
    8,712
    Likes Received:
    6,501
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Enfield
    D1002, Jun 22, 2015
    #11
  12. 5944

    5944 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2006
    Messages:
    8,119
    Likes Received:
    7,761
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Train Maintainer for GTR at Hornsey
    Location:
    Letchworth
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    No, the first link was for 46233. http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O05495/2015/06/22/advanced is the link for 56104 and 47596.
     
    5944, Jun 22, 2015
    #12
  13. gricerdon

    gricerdon Guest

    Engine is now 5043

    Don
     
    gricerdon, Jun 25, 2015
    #13
  14. LMarsh1987

    LMarsh1987 Part of the furniture Friend

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    2,891
    Likes Received:
    3,619
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    TBC
    Location:
    Birmingham & Arley
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    LMarsh1987, Jun 25, 2015
    #14
  15. leander

    leander Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2007
    Messages:
    801
    Likes Received:
    40
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Wymington Beds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Can't find a movement to turn train so is it diesel back ?
     
    leander, Jun 27, 2015
    #15
  16. steamvideosnet

    steamvideosnet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2011
    Messages:
    1,968
    Likes Received:
    2,476
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Southampton, UK
    They don't need to turn the train at Hereford.

    James
     
    steamvideosnet, Jun 27, 2015
    #16
  17. david1984

    david1984 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2005
    Messages:
    12,910
    Likes Received:
    1,387
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Birmingham
    Circular route so no need to turn, goes round Abbey Forgate curve just south of Shrewsbury station to go from heading north on the Marches to south east towards Wolverhampton.
     
    david1984, Jun 28, 2015
    #17
  18. 46118

    46118 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2005
    Messages:
    4,043
    Likes Received:
    212
    Just a quick comment about Hereford. For clarity there is no trackwork that will allow "turning" a loco or stock any more. The branch to the former Bulmers railway centre ( and an oil depot) is long since disused, and indeed as I left Hereford|for Birmingham last week I noticed that the connection from the Bulmers branch into the mainline north of the station has now been lifted altogether.

    Fortunately there are sidings near the station that allow easy access for a road water tanker, and indeed the northbound platform at Hereford has easy access for watering from a road vehicle.

    46118
     
    46118, Jun 29, 2015
    #18
  19. leander

    leander Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2007
    Messages:
    801
    Likes Received:
    40
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Wymington Beds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    If it is going via Shrewsbury and coming back via Shrewsbury where does the loco turn
     
    leander, Jun 29, 2015
    #19
  20. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2007
    Messages:
    35,165
    Likes Received:
    20,846
    Occupation:
    Training moles
    Location:
    The back of beyond
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Simples, it doesn't. If you care to study the times and the route, you will note that it is only passing Shrewsbury on the return. As others have said, it is a "circular" tour.
     
    Spamcan81, Jun 29, 2015
    #20
Page 1 of 6

Share This Page