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Thefts and Vandalism

Discussion in 'Heritage railways & Centres in the Uk' started by rough-shunter, Dec 26, 2006.

  1. The Saggin' Dragon

    The Saggin' Dragon Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    I think it would only count as entrapment if they prosecuted for the tags sprayed on the day.
    Full marks to the SFPD :)
     
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    Enterprise Part of the furniture

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    No, it's only entrapment in UK law if there is an inducement to commit an offence. In this example, there is no inducement as any offence was committed previously.
     
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    buseng Part of the furniture Account Suspended

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    Hello,
    Mindless act of destruction.
    Another act during school holiday time.


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    Why do the press call them "fire - raisers?" They are arsonists and criminals.

    I think a fitting punishment, on conviction, would be, "You will rebuild this, in your own time, and at your own expense. You will have no free time until this job is completed. If you then feel inclined to burn it down again, know that you will repeat the experience."

    That should give them pause for thought and it will keep them out of useless prison.
     
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    There are many areas of the language and media coverage which are different in Scotland, compared to England. Many areas of the law and the way it works differ considerably (just try buying a house or getting divorced, both of which I've done) and so different words are used. Media headlines can often be much wordier - the Scottish version of things like "Man convicted of assaulting neighbour" is often longer and quotes first names, surnames and places!

    Many other words are used differently to how they are in England. How often do you hear 'outwith', 'dreich' or 'bairn' south of the border? Or people saying "I was shouting on so-and-so" (instead of 'shouting at' or 'shouting to')? It might sound wrong to an Englandshirer, but it isn't. It's just different. (As a Sassenach myself I now find it weird going 'home' and hearing the English way of speaking, let alone the inconvenience of finding supermarkets only open from 10-4 on a Sunday!)

    Meanwhile, expressing outrage about the 'wee shites' (another Scottish term) and what you would like to do to them doesn't help the CR at all. If you want to actually make a difference, you can donate here, as many already have... https://crowdfunding.justgiving.com/rebuild-the-brechin-brakevan
     
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    Sad news at the Swindon and Cricklade Railway,

    Our beloved "Thumper" unit was destroyed in a fire last Friday. Cause is unknown at this time, but we're 99% sure it's arson. Trailer car is a complete write off, power car could be salvageable. Gutted is an understatement. Some pictures and news reports below

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-36349469

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3602583/Rare-vintage-diesel-train-worth-100-000-destroyed-arson-attack.html


    An appeal has been set up as we've been inundated with offers of donations. Obviously things were insured, but some of the tools lost won't be covered. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    Prevention!!. Criminals do not like being seen at work.
    First of all valuable assets should not be shunted off into the middle of nowhere without some form of human presence close by.
    I have often wondered why Heritage Railways do not equip brake vans and the like with some form of dormitory accommodation.
    A man with a mobile phone and a large dog can have a deterring effect; and the bonus of free digs for the volunteers
     
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    Then, clearly, the statistics don't include the State of Texas, which deliberately make their sentencing and prison regimes tough.
    I was told, quite forcefully, by a nephew who worked in the Crown Prosecution Service that "Prison is not about punishment - it's about rehabilitation".

    So, how do British re-offending rates compare with Texas? 85% of our ex-prisoners are caught and convicted of another offence within 12 months. In Texas, that figure is 16%.
     
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    The yooman rights mob can .....(insert appropriate fate here)........

    The damage those half-wits have caused is unimaginable, and the fact that many of them have the best of intentions is no excuse.

    Jack
     
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    http://www.governing.com/news/state/mct-report-recidivism-rate-down.html
    http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...e-both-incarceration-and-crime-ken-cuccinelli


    http://open.justice.gov.uk/reoffending/overall-reoffending/

    Rate of reoffending in England and Wales, 2013: 26.46%

     
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    What's the source for that claim? Sounds like you made it up.

    Simon
     

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