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The double arrow and steam locomotives

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by SilentHunter86, Feb 10, 2017.

  1. Tim Light

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    Hmmm ... maybe on a 37, with its hotch-potch of bodyside grills and nowhere to put any horizontal bands. I thought Large Logo livery was as good as anything for a 37.

    Hymeks and Deltics, 47s and the later 25s were much more suited to their earlier liveries with horizontal banding than they were to slab-sided blue.

    Ex-works Rail Blue might have been smart in the sense that a newly painted front door looks smart, but as a livery for motive power it did nothing to suggest speed or motion.
     
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    Blue suited the 40s well too
     
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    While this discussion on British Rail era diesel liveries is doubtless fascinating to many, might it be better located?
     
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    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    It's just natural thread drift ...
     
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    Let's discuss Thread Drift ....:)
     
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    4 Maunsell Nondescript Brake coaches (albeit not in original internal configuration) also saw BR corporate blue grey
     
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    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Were these the ones used for the boat trains for pilgrims to Lourdes?
     
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    Forgot the 5BEL now subject to a magnificent restoration look forward to it in blue grey!
     
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    Tell you something else Ive just remembered from the early part of the rail blue era, the underframes and bogies on multiple units and coaches were painted brown for a short time. I remember the Manchester-Bury class 504 EMUs having this for a bit, be around 1970 ish, but quickly reverted to black
     
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    including mine no doubt
     
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    They must have been the only ex SR hauled stock to receive it. Quite a lot of NPCCS did, but no Bulleid coaches received B/G.

    As far as I know, three GWR Hawksworth coaches did, a few LMS Stanier coaches, mostly porthole brakes, with a few sleepers, and several Gresley and Thompson buffets, the last of which ran until 1978 and were the last pre nationalisation coaches
     
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    That's going to be in brown, I think...
     
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    But conversely I think I saw a Mk II in SR green back in the 1960s. Or is that another of my silly dreams?
     
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    I have seen one on film at Bournemouth West - I don't think it ran over the S&D Though.....................

    Did a MK2 or Blue-Grey vehicle venture over the hallowed metals?
     
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    upload_2017-2-16_20-39-27.jpeg

    20 BR Mk2 FK's were delivered in BR(S) green in the mid 1960s - S13387 to S13406, one just sneaks into view on this shot from David Christie:

    Picture Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/david_christie/9978030614/in/photostream/
     
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    Yes I believe so, all 4 were (after conversion/Lourdes traffic use) went into SR departmental use or sold the the Army.

    4438 was sold for preservation but then scrapped
    4444 Ex Army sold to the Bluebell
    4449 was sold fro preservation but then damaged/scrapped
     
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    No, a small number of Mark 2s were in green on the Southern for a short time
     
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    BGs were normally just blue
     
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    No, the only Mark 1 BGs which were overall blue were ones converted to newspaper traffic which had the brake facility removed. The bulk of them were blue/grey
     
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