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Lynton and Barnstaple - Operations and Development

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by 50044 Exeter, Dec 25, 2009.

  1. Mark Thompson

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    Quite. One side, at least, can be seen to be showing a degree of flexibility, even if the other does not.;)
     
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    What were the unauthorised works at Fairview and another location?
     
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    Does it mean "my natural entitlement to getting things my own way"? It sounds like the sort of phrase one might use in that sort of context.
     
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    That might be more the interpretation that one could apply to the extraordinary rant of a letter from William Grob.
     
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  6. paulhitch

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    You can see why the National Park Authority are being so cautious. If they don't get the procedure 100% right they will be "had".

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    I walked down to Churchtown from Killington Lane a few weeks ago, coming into the village on the track that runs past Fairview. Some recent, rather brutal earthworks were in evidence, which I assumed were part of the re-establishment of the boundary between Fairview and the trackbed. Due to the sensitive situation, I wasn't taking photos, but comparing my recollection with Streetview, it looks as though a section of hedge has been removed. I'm assuming this may be what is being discussed?
     
  8. Felix Holt

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    As the L&B and a supporter own Fairview and the Fairvew trackbed, I would assume any such work is within their rights as owners? I can't see why it is anyone else's business if you decide to dig up your garden....
     
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  9. paulhitch

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    As "uncaring incomers" appears to be part of the Grob case it would be advisable not to give them ammunition in a public forum like NP, however little justification they may or may not have.

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    I know I shouldn't really be thinking this, let alone saying it, but I wonder if the writers of Midsomer Murders have ever visited Churchtown?:Nailbiting:
     
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    I entirely agree. It would be a shame to have to refrain from this discussion entirely, but inflaming the situation further is clearly counterproductive.
     
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    The letter is a masterpiece of nonsense. I have read it twice and am still none the wiser.
     
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    It would be safer to assume (particularly in a National Park!) that any hedge is likely to be the subject of a preservation order!

    Whether or not this was the case I don't know, but many objectors are raising legitimate concerns about the length and impact of the construction work in the National Park required for the reinstatement. The L&B's exhaustive application documents have attempted to allay these concerns. This is why they have been so quick to express their "dismay" about the works at Fairview.
     
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    A (strictly factual) answer to a previous question: a section of tracked immediately south of Parracombe runs across land that forms part of Court Place Farm.
     
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    I found it quite sinister in a way. The phrase about "it is an old man's dream. Let it die with him", particularly creepy.
    Something in the back of my mind recalls the phrase, or something very similar, being used in a speech ruminating upon the death of President Von Hindenburg, by Josef Goebbels.
     
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    I wouldn't give that letter that much credence - it was a rant from someone who is just fundamentally opposed to the project. As for the specific quote, I just took it to be a sideways reference to "perchance it is not dead", but who knows? Or, in the context of planning law, particularly cares?
     
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    Fairview works seem to have appeared on Google maps as a bridge wing wall..

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    One interesting comment in a 'Non Grob' objection is that they have no details of the arrangements for funding the proposed works, something that I feel is quite reasonable.
     
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    There is a suggestion (earlier in this thread I think) that financial viability is not a consideration for the granting of planning permission (however valid that concern might be in a wider context!)

    I'm assuming financial viability would be a valid consideration for the granting of a TWAO however?
     
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    The objectors claim that the rebuilding of the L&B is financially unviable due to the sparse local population, adequate bus service and local high level of car ownership. If a rebuilt L&B were to only cater to local traffic, then they might be right.
    The same claims could be made against the Ffestiniog Railway, yet it somehow managed to carry about 130,000 passengers last year, yet the population of Blaenau Ffestiniog is 4,875(2011).
    Perhaps there is something about these steam trains that gives them a greater attraction than merely local transport neccessities?
     

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