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  1. David Bigcheeseplant

    David Bigcheeseplant New Member

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    I was thinking are there many locos that are privatley owned that are hidden away from public view, one loco that seems to have disapeared is the Isle of Man loco Thornhill are there others that no one has seen for years.

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    Don't mention the Phyllis Rampton Trust whatever you do!!!
     
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    Or the strategic steam reserve
     
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    But the Phyllis Rampton collection IS the strategic steam reserve.
    Or shouldn't I have said that?
     
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    Ok ill say it...
    Hat is the Phyllis Rampton collection?
    (I know people were thinking it )

    Hehe
     
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    Christopher125 Part of the furniture

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    If you're counting narrow gauge then there are truckloads at private locations.
    Steve
     
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    As far as I know this is at ISLE OF MAN. J Edwards, Ballakillingan House, nr Ramsay. SC 425945. There is also a 3ft gauge coach, ex Manx Northern supposedly there. This account dates from 2006 so things may have changed since?
     
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    Is there still anything at Sellidge in Knet? SLL used to keep locos there but Im not sure if anythings there anymore.....
     
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    Heading Number Origin Class/Type Details Notes Other Number
    1 - Mainline Steam Locomotive 35011 SR 4-6-2 MN Merchant Navy Eastleigh 1944 std - General Steam Navigation 21C11
    1 - Mainline Steam Locomotive 35025 SR 4-6-2 MN Merchant Navy Eastleigh 1948 std - Brocklebank Line
    1n - NG Mainline Steam Locomotive 799 Fin 0-6-0T Tampella 1925 5ft (plate355)
    1n - NG Mainline Steam Locomotive 1134 Fin 2-8-0 Tampella 1946 5ft (plate531)
    3 - Industrial Steam Locomotive 2212 MOD 0-6-0ST WD 'Austerity' A Barclay 1946 68078 8078/71463
    4 - Industrial Diesel Locomotive 10007 Ind 4wDH Sentinel 1959 4
    5 - Powered Stock 13003 BR DMBT Emu 4 DD Lancing 1949 [??] (750v 3rd Rail) Set4902/4002
    6 - Passenger Coaching Stock SER 6w Third Ashford 1898 [855] b/o
    6 - Passenger Coaching Stock LSWR 6w Third 4 Comp Nine Elms 1890 [247B] b/o Cut In Half
    6 - Passenger Coaching Stock 02613 LBSCR 6w Brake Third Brighton ???? [75] (Billinton) b/o One Side Missing 09703
    6 - Passenger Coaching Stock 35289 BR Corridor Brake Second GRCW 1960 [181] (Mk1) ex BR Telecom Staff/Generator Coach 977168
    7 - NPCCS Coaching Stock LSWR Parcel Luggage Van Nine Elms 1896 [??] b/o
    7 - NPCCS Coaching Stock 267 SECR 4w Cov Carriage Truck Ashford 1920 [??] roof shtd DS1450/4670
    8 - Plant 70211 SR Tender Plough /????
     
  11. The Saggin' Dragon

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    That 4DD unit deserves a better fate, I know they were not a great success but they were unique for the UK.
     
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    No, it's still there and isn't available for public viewing. I know one person who has seen it once since it left Douglas carriage shed in 1978 and he said it looks exactly as it did when it left the railway. There was a picture of it published in the local paper a few years ago ('peeping out' of it's shed!) when a chap from the US visited the Island and wanted to have another pic taken with it again (he's seen it the 1940s/ 50s, contacted the railway and they were able to fix it up). If I get around to it, I'll scan it in.
     
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    42073 has been locked away in cumbria for some years.
     
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    The same could be said for the Mersey Railway 0-6-4T "Cecil Raikes", which is in a warehouse on Merseyside, although I am pleased it is in safe storage rather than exposed to the salty sea air at Pier Head.
    I always thought this would have been a lovely candidate for restoration especially as it is a very powerfull locomotive.

    To be fair to the Liverpool Museum they did allow another of their hidden treasures, the Liverpool Tramways "Baby Grand" tramcar #245 to be moved to the Pacific Road collection at Birkenhead.
     
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    Yes there is. There is at least one Austerity tank, plus two Merchant Navy class locos. In addition, there are a couple of Finnish 5ft gauge lumps. Sellindge is another site that is private, and must only be visited with permission. We wouldn't want to upset the owner, now would we?
     
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    Ok, below is quite a lengthy list of all gauge steam loco's, in location order, I consider difficult to view. Although I know the address for most of them I wouldn't turn up uninvited. A few do have an occasional open day and some others can be visited by prior arrangement. I haven't included Statfold as they do have a few open days a year. The P. Rampton are those hidden in Surrey, not those at the Ffestiniog.

    Number Origin Class/Type Owner/Operator Details Notes
    807 Ind 0-4-0ST OC 12x20 w3'2 Aberdeen Area A Barclay 1897
    1735 Mozam 0-6-0WTT Bedfordshire Steam Engine Society Decau 1919 2ft
    2370 Ind 0-6-0T Blaby WG Bagnall 1929
    2473 Ind 0-4-0F Bradford WG Bagnall 1932
    7803 Ind 0-4-0F Bramford RSHN 1954 35
    PO 4-4-0 Brixham Prestige 2001 "1ft3"" - 3205, Earl of Devon"
    1327 Ind 0-6-0ST Bromyard & Linton Light Railway Peckett 1913 2ft
    42869 PO 2-6-0 OC Burscough GibbonsCL 1993 "1ft3""
    173L Ind 0-4-0T Camberley HL 1880 3ft2¼ - 5, William Finlay
    2028 IOM 2-4-0T Churchtown BP 1880 3ft - No14, Thornhill
    1158 Ind 0-4-0T 'Sirdar' Clydach Kerr Stuart 1917 2ft - Diana
    7492 Ind 4wVBT Colchester Area Sentinel 1928
    PO 0-4-0VBT Corsham WeaverP 1978 "1ft9"""
    3023 SAfr 0-4-2T Crofton WG Bagnall 1953 2ft - 3, Moel Tryfan
    22 PO 4-4-2 Derby LowkeB 1915 "1ft3"" - King George"
    PO 4-6-0 Derby Carland 1950 "1ft3"" - 6100, Royal Scot"
    2959 Pol 0-6-0WT Derbyshire Chrz 1949 750mm
    1842 Ind 0-4-2T Durley Light Railway Hunslet 1936 2ft - DLR2, Josephine
    8310 France 0-8-0T Durley Light Railway Hano 1918 2ft - 7, The Feldbahn
    PO 0-4-0T Eaton Hall Railway Thursley 1994 "1ft3"" - Katie"
    984 Ind 0-4-0T Eynsford Light Railway A Barclay 1903 2ft - 3, Darent
    1026 Ind 0-6-0ST Fawley Hill Railway HC 1913 op - 31, Sir Robert McAlpine & Sons
    1943 PO 4wG Guildford Saxby 1999 2ft
    Ind 0-4-0VBT Hanson Quarry Products Europe Ltd De Winton 1878 3ft dsm - 1878, Penmaen
    1661 Ind 0-4-0ST Helical Technology Ltd HC 1936 3, Ribblesdale
    678 Ind 0-4-0ST 'Quarry' Helical Technology Ltd Hunslet 1898 2ft - 37, Jonathan
    4004 Ind 0-4-0CT Helical Technology Ltd Nielson 1890 6, Hodbarrow
    18386 Ind 0-4-0ST Helical Technology Ltd NBH 1908 20, Gartsherrie
    1857 Ind 0-6-0T Henstridge HC 1952 North Gawber No.6 Area
    Peru 4-4-0 Hunton McGarigle 1904 "1ft3"""
    15551 Germ 0-8-0T Hunton Henschel 1917 2ft - 6
    3175 Arg 0-4-0WT Joe Nemeth Engineering Ltd Jung 1921 600mm
    3019 Ind 0-6-0F K&J Bownes & Sons WG Bagnall 1952 Ben
    1568 Ind 0-4-0ST Kings Bromley WG Bagnall 1899 2ft - Dorothy
    3326 Pol 0-6-0WT Lancashire Chrz 1954 750mm
    12470 Arg 0-10-0T Michael List-Brain OK 1934 2ft - T908
    NewZ 4-4-0 Michael List-Brain Herschell 1917 "1ft3"" - Ao-Te-Aroa"
    13101 Arg 0-10-0T Michael List-Brain OK 1938 2ft - T911
    10957 Arg 0-10-0T Michael List-Brain OK 1925 2ft - T912
    10956 Arg 0-10-0T Michael List-Brain OK 1925 2ft - T907
    104 PO 4-4-2 Atlantic Michael List-Brain Barnes 1927 "1ft3"" - 'Billie'"
    7122 SAfr 0-6-0WT+T Michael List-Brain OK 1914 2ft - 8
    11309 Arg 0-10-0T Michael List-Brain OK 1927 2ft
    1425 Ind 4-2-2 Michael List-Brain WG Bagnall 1893 "1ft6"" - 778"
    Aus 0-4-0+0-4-0T Michael List-Brain Lester Jones 1990 "1ft3"" - 3, Elsa"
    1465 Ind 0-6-0ST National Museum Liverpool Avonside 1904 M.D & H.B. No1
    5 MR 0-6-4T National Museum Liverpool BP 1885 Cecil Raikes
    L&M 0-4-2 National Museum Liverpool TKL 1838 Lion
    1219 Ind 0-4-0ST New Buildings Farm A Barclay 1911
    1532 Ind 0-6-0ST New Buildings Farm MW 1901 11, Newcastle
    Ind 0-4-0VBT Newbury De Winton 1893 1ft11½ dsm
    2565 Ind 0-4-0ST Northamptonshire WG Bagnall 1934
    287 Ind 0-4-0ST Northamptonshire Hunslet 1881 89-94, Trym
    929 Ind 0-4-0ST Old Station House A Barclay 1902 12, Alexandra
    15540 Germ 0-8-0T Penryhn Railway Trust Henschel 1917 2ft - 1
    2668 SAfr 2-8-2 Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust FB 1951 2ft - 121
    2545 SAfr 0-4-4-0T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust WG Bagnall 1936 600mm - 5, Renishaw
    2460 Ind 4-6-2 Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust WG Bagnall 1932 2ft - 41
    2457 Ind 4-6-2 Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust WG Bagnall 1932 2ft - 38
    2192 Ind 0-6-2T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust WG Bagnall 1922 "2ft6"" - 3, Conqueror"
    2057 SAfr 0-4-4-0T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust Avonside 1931 600mm - Renishaw - Prvt site Farnham ?
    2029 India 2-6-2T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust WG Bagnall 1916 "2ft6"" - AK16"
    1209 Spain 0-6-0T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust Couillet 1898 600mm - 2, Samelices
    265 Ind 4-4-0 Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust FE 1897 2ft - SSE1912
    2895 SAfr 0-4-2T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust WG Bagnall 1948 600mm
    16045 Spain 0-4-0T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust Henschel 1918 600mm - 103
    639 Spain 0-4-2ST Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust HC 1902 550mm - 4, San Justo
    1140 Spain 0-6-0T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust Couillet 1895 600mm - 1, Sabero
    640 Spain 0-4-2ST Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust HC 1902 550mm - 5, Santa Ana
    1318 Spain 0-6-0T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust Couillet 1900 600mm - 3, Olleros
    4408 Ind 0-6-4T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust Kerr Stuart 1928 "2ft6"" - 695"
    5913 Spain 0-4-0WT Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust Borsig 1908 600mm
    6022 Spain 0-6-2T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust Borsig 1906 600mm - 7, Sotillos
    10634 SAfr 2-6-2+2-6-2T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust Hano 1928 600mm - 82
    266 Ind 4-4-0 Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust FE 1897 2ft - Lisboa
    16043 Spain 0-4-0T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust Henschel 1918 600mm - 102
    Spain 0-6-0T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust Sabero 1937 600mm - 6, La Herrera
    16073 Spain 0-4-2T Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust Henschel 1918 600mm - 101
    17111 Ind 4-6-2 Phyllis Rampton NG Railway Trust NB 1906 "2ft6"" - 666"
    PO 0-4-0VBT Quenchwell Roanoke 2004 2ft
    1871 Ind 0-4-0T Reading A Barclay 1925 2ft - 9, Jack
    1928 SAfr 0-4-0T Reading Avonside 1928 2ft - Sezela No 6
    1720 SAfr 0-4-0T Reading Avonside 1915 2ft - Sezela No 2
    2800 Ind 0-4-0ST South Wales HL 1909 u/r - Met
    397 Fin 2-8-0 St Albans Frichs 1949 5ft - 1151
    792 Fin 0-6-0T St Albans Tampella 1927 5ft
    1077 Fin 2-8-2 Steam Traction Ltd Jung 1953 5ft
    3052 India 0-4-0T Stokesley WG Bagnall 1953 "2ft6"""
    2495 India 0-4-0T Stokesley WG Bagnall 1933 "2ft6"""
    2496 India 0-4-0T Stokesley WG Bagnall 1933 "2ft6"""
    PO 4-6-0 Swindon SmithEL "1ft3"" incomplete loco"
    Ind 4wVBT Tansley Jaywick 1939 "1ft6"" dsm"
    3518 Darj 0-4-0ST+WT The Beeches Light Railway Sharp Stuart 1888 2ft - 19B
    1738 Ind 0-4-0ST Titley Junction Station Peckett 1928 6, Percy
    996 Ind 0-4-0ST 'Quarry' Unknown Hunslet 1909 1ft10¾ - Edward Sholto
    6728 Mozam 0-8-0T Warnford Schwartzkopf 1918 600mm - SSC7
    8356 Germ 0-8-0T Warnford OK 1917 2ft dsm
    8282 Germ 0-8-0T Warnford Hano 1917 2ft - 18
    3854 Ind 0-4-0WT Warwickshire SLM 1944 2ft
    8800 Ind 0-4-0WT Windsor Area AP 1917 Sir Vincent
    1756 Ind 0-4-0ST R2 Windsor Area Peckett 1928 Hornpipe
    1016 Fin 4-6-2 Windsor Area Tampella 1955 5ft - Lady Patricia
    921 Ind 0-4-0ST Witherley Hunslet 1909 2ft dsm - Sybil Mary
    PO 2-6-2 Witney BurtonJL 1967 "1ft3"" u/c"
    300 PO 0-4-2T Witney ESR 1996 "1ft3"" - Markeaton Lady"
    14968 Germ 0-8-0T Witney Henschel 1917 2ft - 15
    2874 GWR 2-8-0 2800 Worcestershire Swindon 1918 std u/r
    301 PO 0-6-0T Wotton Light Railway ESR 1996 "1ft3"" - Sandy"
    2043 Ind 0-4-0ST Yaxham Light Railway WG Bagnall 1917 1ft11½ - Kidbrooke
    PO 0-4-0VBT Yaxham Light Railway Potter 1970 1ft11½ - 1, The Coffee Pot
    705 Ind 0-4-0ST 'Quarry' Yaxham Light Railway Hunslet 1899 1ft11½ - 16, Elin
     
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    The locos. & the Liverpool Overhead Railway coach belonging to Merseyside museums can be viewed by the the public by making an appointment via the Curator of Land Transport. These being part of a national collection they have to be available for inspection. The warehouse is pretty full at the moment as they have had to empty a neighbouring building while it is re-roofed.

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    What has changed in the past 7 years?
     
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    I think they just dragged the last person who mentioned it off to the chateau dif.
     
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