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Forgotten "preserved" Steam engines

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Coboman, Nov 23, 2010.

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  1. Coboman

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    Thought we could do with a thread about steam locos that have been preserved, but pretty much forgotten about.
    I'll start the ball rolling with this one.
    The Mersey Railway No5 'Cecil Raikes'
    I cannot find a picture of it newer than 1988 via google!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mersey_Railway_No._5_Cecil_Raikes.jpg
     
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    Could we include in this engines that have simply been forgotten, whether preserved or not? If I recall correctly, aren't there still three industrials stuck in a scrapyard in Scotland that the owner won't sell?
     
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  3. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    'Forgotten' by whom? - both the examples so far are fairly well known, the fact that nothing much has happened with them does not mean that they are forgotten. In fact I would suggest that they are possibly discussed more on here than say, the Black Fives at the Colne Valley Railway for instance?
     
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    Cecil Rakes is still there and is being cared for. Visits are allowed occasionally.

    http://www.lupts.org.uk/2002review.htm

    I do not have any photos of that day but there may be some about. I have a picture of Cecil Rakes' twin in some far flung country.
     
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    Going into dodgy territory with this as it straight away brings in 'Collection X'!!
     
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    You mentioned it first... Still at least one loco has come out of there and been steamed.
     
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    It really depends on your definition of forgotten! There are many engines that are not widely publicised in the railway media but i'm sure (and hope) that the relavent railways/owning groups haven't forgotten them. Here a are few off the top of my head,

    GWR 9629 - Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway
    SR 102 'Granville' - Bressingham
    SR 30499 - Mid Hants/Bury
    Numerous SR Merchant Navys
    LMS 47455 - Midland Railway Centre
    LMS 47564 - Midland Railway Centre
    BR 76084 - Privatley Owned
    BR 80100 - Bluebell Railway
     
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    I hate to correct you but 76084 is being restored at Ian Storey's premises for use on the NYMR and main line running has been mentioned, Pocket Rocket II!
     
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    Some Ex GW ones which we don't hear much about/seem forgotten but would welcome updates:

    2859/2873
    3814/3862
    4110/4121
    4253
    5668
    6686
    7027
    7229
     
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    Thanks for the update!!
     
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    There is a website (with pretty regular updates) for this loco at: http://www.standard4.com

    Keith
     
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    Perhaps a good definition of forgotten would be not on public view and rarely mentioned in the press or forums. A number of the ex-industrial locos at Carnforth (e.g. Lindsay, Caliban and the Sharp-Stewart) would fall into this category.
     
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    Restoration of 76084 seems to be actively ongoing - see: http://www.standard4.com/

    Unfortunately, work on the other NYMR-based engine mentioned, 3814, seems to have stagnated.
     
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    Manning Wardle 0-6-0 "Newcastle" on a farm near Royston in Hertfordshire where some friends keep their road steamers.

    She has not been steamed for many years now and the track has all been lifted.

    Stan
     
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    Not so with 30499 as the tender is being actively worked as I write this in Ropley shed.

    The frames are being worked on too in the yard.

    Also just to say that there is nothing left now at Bury.

    Regards
    Chris:
     
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    9629 certainly isn't forgotten. There is a regular team of bods working away quietly on the project. They have taken 2 years off, as they were also involved in re-opening the extension down to Blaenavon High Level. A great deal of the missing parts are now obtained, and the frames have had the rear third replaced.

    Regards,
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    This is great news, slowly we're striking the loco's off my list!
     
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    Is this the one that was in Stafford Road works?

    One for the re-built types perhaps...!
     
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