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Flying Scotsman

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 73129, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. LMarsh1987

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    Lineside rumour has it that Scotsman, will haul the first tour over the reopened S&C at the end of March.
     
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    Compilation of my footage of 60103 over the past year.
     
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    Starting from York.... coming off at Keighley ?
     
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    A special train behind 60103 would be more fitting than the 29th March train currently mentioned as the first steam over the reopened line with 60163.
     
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    Just been looking on the Bluebell website to see if there are any more details about 60103's visit in April and found that two special Dining trains with the A3 sold out in a couple of days last month. I hope the other services don't sell out too quickly. I did send an email to the special Scotsman email account set up by the Bluebell so hopefully I will be on their notification list as I didn't get an acknowledgement.


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    Maybe so but not theory from the mouth of Bert Hooker though!!
     
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    Because FS has a corridor tender buckeye coupling was used on the teaks so very little slack in the coupling.
     
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    Well, to get any train on the move, you need to take the brake off. As soon as you create the vacuum, the coaches will move to take up the slack, even if you leave the loco brake on. If you put steam on before the brake is off, you sort of defeat the object because, all the time the loco is stood, steam is leaking past the rings into the other side of the cylinder, creating an opposing force. Nice theory, but I can't see it actully working in practice.
     Stopping in the right place with the rods to get maximum torque is a different matter, though. That's often practised. (or tried!)
     
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    Was it Eric Treacy who wrote an account of how wrong it could go upon leaving York, but he also wrote an account of how it should be done? Some sort of technique involving both Driver and Fireman on the regulator? I'm sure it's in something like Treacys British Rail.
     
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    I've read that and did have a copy somewhere but can't lay my hands on it just now. I can't for the life of me remember which book it was in...it could have been one of Eric Treacy's but I'm 100% sure it wasn't him who wrote it. The name Tuplin springs to mind, but could be wrong.
     
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    Oh, it's bound to be accurate then ... :rolleyes:

    Tom
     
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    I recall reading it using an A3 as an example, but again can't remember where. I do recall the idea of backing the loco into the train whilst slowing up for the water column at York by using a touch of back gear, to hold the train against the outside rail. The Gresley pacifics only had vacuum brakes, so no way could the loco be braked separately.
     
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    I'll consult my library, I've a couple of works by the bishop in there.
     
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    I seem to remember a 'Trains Illustrated' article about York describing this. In one of the small sized Steam Days series of the early 70s I think. Unfortunately I don't still have it.
     
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    Found it it's in Eric Treacy Railway Photographer by Pat Whitehouse and Geoffrey Freeman Allen 'Caught on the curve- York and Newcastle' an account by the late W. A. Tuplin.
     
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    That probably means that it's a load rubbish, then.
     
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    I wouldn't know, not being a footplate man myself.
     
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    I've done the same. Really gonna have to be quick on the trigger to get tickets.
     
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    It is referred to in 'Great railway photographs by Eric Treacy' on page 130 regarding a write-up by W. A. Tuplin on an A3 trying to start a train from Platform 9, a curved platform at York.

    I can't help wondering, as exemplified in the '60103 on the Severn Valley' film on the BBC a week or two ago, is that some try to start off with the valve gear notched up rather than in full gear.
     
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    I see on Amazon Flying Scotsman From The Footplate is listed on DVD as being released on February 27th. Interestingly it's currently listed as having 2 discs.
     
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