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David Wardale's iconic "Red Devil" book to be reprinted in New Year

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Sheff, Dec 7, 2012.

  1. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    Hi Folks,

    I'm pleased to announce that the 5AT Group has organised a reprinting of David Wardale's iconic book The Red Devil and Other Tales from the Age of Steam following negotiations between Chris Newman (5AT Webmaster), David Wardale and Adam Harris, Camden Miniature Steam plans to produce a new print-run of the book early in 2013.

    For those who don't know, "The Red Devil and Other Tales from the Age of Steam" provides a comprehensive account of Wardale's work in South Africa, the USA and China, and the principles of Modern Steam developed by L.D. Porta upon which Wardale's work was based.

    It is not yet known what the book will be priced at, but it is hoped that it will be no more than £40 – i.e. a little more than the original 1998 printings, but rather less than copies have been fetching on the second-hand market. It is expected that copies of the book may be ordered through the 5AT website, and that a donation from the proceeds will be made to the 5AT Group for each one sold through the website.

    If you are interested in purchasing a copy of the book, please notify the 5AT Group through the webmaster@5at.co.uk.

    Iain Jack

    5AT Group

    Footnote

    As has been reported elsewhere, the 5AT Project may be suspended, but the 5AT Group remains active, formalizing itself into a registered non-profit organization dedicated to helping steam traction retain a place on the rail systems of the future through the adoption of engineering principles that will reduce costs and improve performance and reliability.

    The group remains small, but we are seeking new members, particularly people who can actively participate in the group’s work in any area. The group is currently pursuing several avenues for future activity which will be reported on in due course.
     
  2. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    Sheff, that link takes me to your profile....
     
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    Seems ok to me......
     
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    Yes it's fixed thanks.
     
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    Thanks Sheff, my original is looking a little used (probably the best £24-95 I ever spent) so a second copy would be handy to say the least.
     
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    Think its time i got a copy too, im starting to actually understand a lot of the things that 242A1 says now

    Wonder if Msr Chapeleons Tome will ever be available on Kindle... never seen a copy for less than 3 Figures, couldnt beleive when it was sat on a coffee table at search engine, English translation as well, i almost kissed it, didnt have time to read more than a few pages though.

    The next challenge for our budding steam gurus is therefore to produce an efficient draughting/exhaust/ejector arrangement that sounds like a 150 Tonne Howler monkey with Croup on start up...
     
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    I shouldn't worry too much over not possessing M. Chapelon's tome. It has more errors and nonsenses in it compared with any other technical book that I have ever read.
     
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    these been printed yet ?
     
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    Sorry for the delay in updating you, I've been away in on hols without access to the internet (or a mobile signal come to that!). Here's the latest .....

    "The book should be available in late March or early April. We will be notifying everyone who has expressed interest in the book when final price and the release date are known.”

    So if you've enquired via webmaster@5at.co.uk then you will informed by email once we know more.

    Hope this helps.

    Iain
     
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    The latest news is that the book is due to be released from the printers around 16th April next.

    Therefore a new “sales” page has been added onto the 5AT website (see http http://5at.co.uk/index.php/sales/Red-Devil-Orders.html) to accept advanced orders for the book from anyone who wants to secure a copy.

    The recommended retail price for the book is £39.95. This is just 30% more than its original price 15 years ago. We believe this represents excellent value for 522 highly readable pages covering Wardale's career as a steam locomotive engineer, including comprehensive technical descriptions of the remarkable (and very different) projects that he undertook on three continents. The high prices that this book has commanded on the second hand market in recent times are testament to its unique and lasting value.

    Whilst it is not expected that the entire print-run will sell out overnight, there is strong interest in the book so there’s every likelihood that they will be sold out sooner rather than later.
     
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    Thanks Ralph, me too (and I don't get a discount :( )
     
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    Im there as well.
    All eyes on 'Big Jim' at the KWVR later this year to see how it pans out. wouldnt have thought an S160 would need much enhancement to get 6 up to oxenhope...
     
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    Shhh!
     
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    Bit late for that, its in the beano...
     
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    Epic thread resurrection.........

    Does anyone happen to know if there are any copies of this still floating about?

    Have seen the book referenced a good few times and has sparked an interest on my part, only copy I can see online is well into 3 figures!

    Kind regards

    Chris
     
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    Wow that makes my copy from the last reprint a good investment. It took me quite a long time to read it as some of it is very technical and heavy going but well worth it in the end.
     
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    Camden haven't any left you ? could try the AST ?
     
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    Camden have! £9.95 great result!

    Thankyou!
     
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    Well done, cherish it, it is one the best books that you will read about Steam Locomotive development. Also, given time, it may well be worth those 3 figures that you were quoted for a second hand copy.

    Cheers,

    Alan
     

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