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Bluebell matters

Discussion in 'Heritage railways & Centres in the Uk' started by Jamessquared, Feb 16, 2013.

  1. SomewhereintheSouthEast

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    Hi Tom would you know if there are any Ashford man still alive from the days of steam?
     
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    Doesn't the above fall into the "wouldn't it be nice" category? ;)
     
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    While they're about it, would you like them to relay the rest of the line to Lewes for the weekend?
     
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    N2 1744 (4744/9523/69523) can for one. Although it was "only" built in 1921.
     
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  7. Jamessquared

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    A photo (not mine...) of the new up starting signal at Sheffield Park.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/carpentr/31918386965/in/dateposted/

    This (and it's companion on platform 2) are 28 yards further forward than the old ones, slightly increasing flexibility for working longer trains without the train engine having to be in advance of the starter. Since the photo was taken, the new signals have been bought into use and the originals taken out of use.

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    Potential for 7 coach trains when 60103 visits then? Subject to suitable controls when in the platforms at Sheffield Park.

    Regards,

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    Indeed, though worth remembering that this work was planned, and commenced, before it was known that FS was visiting. The long-term aim is to extend the platforms at SP - that is not so much that we would routinely operate 7 coach trains, but rather that when running a six coach train, the loco will still be on the platform when waiting for departure, which provides better access to visitors.

    As for FS - there is some possibility they might be 8 coach services, which is the longest that can be run-round at East Grinstead. I'm not an expert on the interlocking at SP, but I think that if an arriving train stops with the back of the train just inside the starter (which means that the coupling between tender and train is at the foot crossing at the south of the platform), then the calling-on signal at the north of the station can be cleared to allow the loco to run round. It would then be in advance of the starter when coupled up ready to depart, and I think at that point the home signal cannot then be cleared to allow a second arrival to come into the other platform, so running an intense service would require alternative arrangements at the home signal, for example a flagman.

    The other consideration is how we load trains. With the Santa services, the normal operation is for the terminating service to arrive at platform 1; then, after the passengers have disembarked, the train shunts via the single line to platform 2, the loco runs round and the next set of passengers embark. However, that move is limited by the distance between the advance starter and the inner home to no more than 6 coaches plus engine, so wouldn't be possible with 7 or 8. I guess some other means of crowd separation will have to be enforced.

    The longest train I've personally worked was in connection with a charter couple of years ago, when we set out from SP with (north to south) the S15; 7 Bluebell coaches; a mainline support coach and Braunton - equivalent length to engine + 9. It was possible, but only because SP was otherwise quiet, since it somewhat snarled up the south end of the station while awaiting departure.

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    Just seen the extra diesel gala in October. So is Giants of Steam cancelled? :( Been such a great event last 2 years surely it would be stupid to cancel it?
     
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    The Autumn Steam Gala is the weekend after the Deltic Gala.
     
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    I thought it was but I assumed that they wouldn't run it alongside the already packed calendar now
     
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    I think there might still be a degree of finalisation of events to come - remember that, in addition to the diesel weekend and the Deltic 40th gala, we are also due to pay host to "Flying Scotsman" in April; the LNWR Coal Tank in May and "City of Wells" in July, as well as "Steam through the ages" in September, so there is a lot happening for enthusiasts.

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    It is mentioned in the latest Bluebell News in " From the Chair " ( although no date stated ) along with the End of Southern Steam event 7th - 9th July.
     
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    Tom, any idea what "Steam though the ages" entails? I had thought it would be something along the lines of the Vintage Transport Weekend.
     
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    No - though the way this year is going, nothing much would surprise me! Maybe we'll continue the East Coast theme and get Shildon's replica of Locomotion ...

    Tom
     
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