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I can honeslty say i have no idea when it had its last P and V exam , Although im sure that once a formal statment has been made it will be made to the right people, std tank , if you are a loco owner with an engine with coreplugs or a simular idea , then i am sure your copy of the statement , or a information pack of somesort will be in the post to you as some point .[/quote:kaehmcgf]
Thanks for the reply, small prairie.
No doubt the accident will be discussed at the next BRSLOG meeting.

 

I have no knowledge of this incident and can see little point in armchair speculation, but just as no one else seems to have mentioned it - There is a quote directly attributed to Mr Chambers in SR this month suggesting the probable cause - I assume that this is correct (albeit perhaps somewhat out of date considering how quick these things move) in light of the various posts from the editor of SR regarding the fear of litigation in the case of incorrect quotes etc.

 

According to info on the MHR website, see about a third of the way down the page: http://www.watercressline.co.uk/tw/yetmor50.htm

Its last P & V exam was January last year, unless another has taken place since.

Making the timescale to when the accident happened about 14 months.

 

Guys please can we put a halt to the speculation until MHR and the owners have had time to investigate and report their findings.

 

Would it not be easier to just lock the topic ?

Like i have said before , nearly everyone on here be them armchair expertes or people who have been in the trade for many years has had there speculation said and aruged with .

Please just lock the topic till actural facts come out from the MHR . NOTthe beno , RM or any other petty magazine or a petty website.

 

And if I did, would he tell me the same as he is alleged to have told Steam Railway? I'd heard that the prime cause was water carry over but I didn't and still don't, know. You MHR guys, well the sensible ones, had more or less convinced me that my original sources were wrong and it was a core plug failure. Even with this, it is important to know the mode of failure so that people might learn and benefit. Then today I read in Steam Railway a quote from Colin Chambers which more or less agreed with what I'd been originally told.
Perhaps Colin Chambers got it wrong (possible).
Perhaps Steam Railway misquoted him (quite possible!)
Perhaps Colin Chambers got it right and SR quoted him correctly (quite possible).

Over to you.

 

I haven't seen the quote in question, but it is certianly not water-carry over. The crew in charge of the loco have confirmed this, and investigations of the cylinder have found no sign of water there.

 

All i can say is i think the quote sums it up quite nicely

 

That's easy to say but, when what people say doesn't ring true in your mind (and I'm not alone in thinking that) you tend to keep asking questions until you finally get to an answer. Sorry, but it is in my nature; I've had a life of doing that as a professional engineer. And it is not speculation.

 

So, Mitch, are you saying that Steam Railway did misquote him? If so, what did he say?

 

There is no question of your professional ability as an engineer Steve, and I think it goes without saying that you have a good point .

The only thing I might add at this point is that I can only agree with what Mitchell Wyatt has already stated on this thread, please wait for the official report?.

Best regards
Chris Willis

 

How many answers do you want Steve? You've had myriad answers from people who've seen the damage first hand, who were there on the day, who have talked to the crew involved etc,etc. and you're still not satisfied. I don't quite understand why you are looking for alternatives, why not stop speculating and wait for the official blurb ( and please don't blame the 'professional engineer' curiosity for this - we have those on the MHR as well, and they are content to wait for something official)

 

No further comment from me.
Steve, don't lose any sleep over this. As chessie suggests wait for the official blurb.

 

OK as many have requested and I now think this thread has run its course I will lock it until there is new information and not speculation.