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Winter CME Trips 2018

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by 61994, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. Oswald T Wistle

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    Thanks Andy. I took a look at your video, the power application was relentless you kept thinking they must ease up at some point - but they didn't. As for the speed thro' Penrith I couldn't put a number on it but on the "old scale" of fast, v fast and f fast it's got to be up there.
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  2. Oswald T Wistle

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    Thanks Peter, I'd be pleased for you to call me Oswald, better than some of the other things I've answered to over the years. I've a few more trips already booked so expect more of the usual nonsense.

    David in the early(ish) morning in Darwen where the snow is turning to rain
     
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    Good to meet you, no doubt we'll come across each other again. It was a good trip, I think that Galatea gave all that there was with 11 coaches. Sorry about the bacon butty, I had one at the West Cornwall Pasty Co which was good and Andy said that he had a good one at Greggs (not in the station).

    With a Yorkshire man having a poor bacon butty in Lancashire. I can give you the flip side a Lancashire man having an excellent one in Yorkshire. Last autumn Mrs W and I were in Thirsk at lunchtime and went into a café in the market square, York's of Thirsk where we each had a very tasty and enjoyable bacon butty. Whilst paying I complimented the proprietor, a bluff middle-aged man on the excellent quality of the bacon. Normally a response would be, "Thanks, glad you enjoyed it" or perhaps, "We get it from a farm just outside town" or some such like. "Aye, an' plenty on it!" was the response delivered in a strong Yorkshire accent, no smile, no nothing - such charm - good butty though.
     
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    That is probably fair comment and significant credit due to the crews in the challenging conditions over a testing route.
     
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    That made me smile Oswald.
    The odd tasting thing I had was from upper ? crust, I cant picture where the WCPCo is, but thank you I must remember for next time although my next 4 bookings are not from Preston.
    Well done also on finding the one Yorkshireman who keeps the fallacy going that we are a bit tight ovver ere (lol) :rolleyes:
     
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  6. Oswald T Wistle

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    WCPCO is "al fresco" on platform 3 alongside the ramp.
     
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    Another excellent report, as always. It was interesting to compare the 2 runs up Shap, one with a start of 36 at Grayrigg, the other from a stand at Grayrigg but with a full boiler and prepared fire - nothing between them at the summit in terms of speed.

    Continuing the comparison theme, I did a couple of similar runs in August 2015 (45699 with 11 coaches). These runs had the benefit of dry rails and no steam heating requirement - they were very similar to the two recorded, again suggesting that this is the limit for 45699 + 11. I revisited the GPX files and extracted the data that best matches your measurement points (a little minor interpolation was required - sorry missus!). I have also added a similar, but exceptional run, with 46115 + 13 (almost at the end of its ticket).

    One final comment, I must tip my proverbial cap to you; mixed grill, 2 pints and an ice cream - a "legend in your own lunchtime".
     

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    Great logs from all. Is any comparative data of Black 5 performance with similar load for the return route availabe perhaps, out of interest?
     
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    Thank you kind sir. I tend to agree the runs show Galatea pretty much on the limit. To complete your excellent table, the Appleby-Ais Gill summit Board timing was 30m 43s. I wonder if Saturday will hold any surprises for us??
     
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    I think the only surprise will be Galatea and wet weather again ;)
     
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    Third time lucky Steve!

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    Go on admit it, the 3pm graphic is Photoshopped. :Borg:
     
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    Would I do that to Steve? ;)

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    I'll be on that - coach C. RTT indicates we should pass each other by the signal box at Howe & Co Sidings about 10 minutes south of Carlisle, so I'll be sure to keep an eye out.
     
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    RTT not got any data. Did train leave Euston on time??
     
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    Just this minute seen leaving Crewe on RailCam.
     
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    RTT showing times again beyond Tamworth.
     

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