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GWSR Broadway Developments

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by Breva, Aug 1, 2014.

  1. flying scotsman123

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    My thoughts exactly! Give it a couple of years and I reckon they'll be more receptive. In the meantime it won't stop people catching the train *into* Broadway for the day, which I reckon will be more popular than starting there anyway - I wonder how many coach parties might just park at Toddington and take the short journey to Broadway and back?...

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    Unlikely I'd have thought. The key logistical issue / time consuming activity on a coach tour is getting people on and off the coach. So in that light, coach to Cheltenham Racecourse + train to Broadway + look round Broadway + coach onto next destination is less time consuming while being more attractive than doing two shorter rail journeys to and from Toddington either side of a visit to the village. It also means the coach company only has one time-critical deadline to meet during the day; not two.

    In other words, I can see the one-way trip along the whole line being more attractive to coach parties than a two-way trip along a short part of the line.

    One of the key issues I can see for the GWSR is whether they can balance those journeys; i.e. have some coach traffic doing Cheltenham - Broadway and then have a look round the village; and others look round the village first and then take train trip. The first itinerary feels to me more attractive, TBH. I suspect the coach operators have a shrewd idea of what they can sell and the railway will to a large extent have to accommodate those wishes if it wants to develop significant coach traffic.

    Another key issue will be how the railway deals with having its loco and carriage storage facilities effectively at the wrong end of the line if the bulk of the car-borne traffic develops to be people wishing to go Cheltenham - Broadway in the morning; look round the village and return to Cheltenham in the afternoon (what was described on another thread as a "tidal" pattern of traffic).

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    I'm of the same opinion as Tom. That amounts to some ECS working or nearly empty trains. (Pointlesss having ECS trains unless there is good reason. You may as well open them to passengers.
     
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    That's too sensible for a council. Instead of granting permission to use the empty space as a car park, they'll paint double yellow lines on the roads. :eek:
     
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    The Highways Authority will only impose parking restrictions if they have the support of the local member (County Councillor) - I know her well and she enthusiastically supports the return of the railway to Broadway.
     
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    Remember that the Planning Authority and the Highway Authority are different bodies in those parts. Anyway, what's wrong with both? A Traffic Regulation Order would give captive custom to the railway car park.:)
     
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    You are ignorant of the facts.

    The planning authority (Wychavon District Council) cannot paint double yellow lines on the road - it is not the highways authority (Worcestershire County Council).

    In future, maybe you should check up on these things before posting.
     
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    You are I think correct, the planning authority cannot paint double yellow lines. A quick Google search shows that in many cases it is councils that paint double yellow lines, and have the responsibility to enforce them.
     
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    To add to the mix - enforcement of on-street parking restrictions is undertaken by the district council rather than the county council which is the highways authority!
     
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    Michael - you should read two posts up page before posting!;)
     
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    Totally confusing! The Local Planning Authority (LPA) is, in two-tier areas, the District Council for most planning matters or the County Council for defined "County Matters". In unitary areas the LPA and the LHA will be the same. Only in National Parks is the LPA a separate body.
     
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    Back to Broadway....

    I had the chance to photograph the station building from above today, as with the raised scaffolding it is impossible to get a decent picture from the ground.
    The scaffolding is now at the higher level to finish off the corbelling, and to support the people putting up the replica canopy.
    The manufacture of the canopy elements is now complete, but quite a few gusset plates etc still have to be made so that everything fits together. It looks as if the corbelling and the canopy will be ready at about the same time, say in a month or so.

    Soil nailing is about 25% done.

    Track laying is on hold for a couple of weeks, as the second 1km of track is stressed, welded and clipped up. The sleeper wagons then have to go back for reloading.
     

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    Nice brickwork there...
     
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    It's got two former Broadway team members on it ;) so there is a link.

    This sleeper train propelled towards the extension this afternoon.
     

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    The trusses and ridge purlins were erected at Broadway today.
    This beautiful series of arches is what the faithful heritage copy is all about. It was a real struggle to get it approved, but we got there. It's rivetted, and almost all made in house, the ridge purlins being subcontracted to save time.
    A brilliant effort by our loco dept.
    More steelwork (facia boards and purlins) will go up next week, then it's the corrugated iron sheets and a row of glazing in authentic glass.
     

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    No not if you were the Great Western Railway ;)
    They used the spelling with the Y so it's Hailes Abbey but Hayles Abbey Halt!
     
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    Haha, nope! Original GWR spelling.
     
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