If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

The Royal Wessex 8th April 2017

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by Paul42, Apr 4, 2017.

  1. Paul42

    Paul42 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    5,927
    Likes Received:
    3,864
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    East Grinstead
    Times out http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50747/2017/04/08/advanced
    Return http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50501/2017/04/08/advanced

    Hauled by 34046 - Load 10 ( eight coaches listed on letter with ticket plus support and kitchen car).
    Return diesel hauled as advertised.
     
  2. free2grice

    free2grice Part of the furniture Friend

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2005
    Messages:
    5,299
    Likes Received:
    2,670
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired Rolls-Royce engineer
    Location:
    Bath Green Park / Mangotsfield
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    The train will drop 34052 (aka 34046) off at Wareham for it's return to Swanage.

    Train 5Z47 runs SO, 08/04/17

    Operator WR WEST COAST RAILWAY COMPANY (22244008)

    Wareham 17:21
    Worgret Jn 17:26
    Swanage 18:11

    <BJ>
     
  3. buzby2

    buzby2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2009
    Messages:
    1,626
    Likes Received:
    537
    Location:
    Swanage
    34052 (34046), with support coach, uncouples at Wareham and goes to Swanage: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U ... 8/advanced (Arrives Swanage 18:00)
    Sunday's tender-first run back to Southall: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U ... 9/advanced (Departs Swanage 11:06)
    Followers wanting to see it's progress, between Hinton Admiral and Weymouth, can use the track display: http://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/swml7 which includes the beginning of the Swanage branch.
    You can view the progress of Lord Dowding (Braunton) at Corfe Castle using the signal box railcam: http://www.swanagerailway.co.uk/corfe-castle [Saturday scheduled pass around 17:42/17:46 and Sunday around 11:20/11:23]
     
  4. mrKnowwun

    mrKnowwun Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2011
    Messages:
    4,335
    Likes Received:
    2,760
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    West Byfleet
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Just thundered out of the fog at wivelsfield, 6 down, pouring on the power, 57 clinging in terror at the rear
     
  5. johnnew

    johnnew Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2007
    Messages:
    655
    Likes Received:
    124
    Occupation:
    PRO The Stephenson Locomotive Soc.
    Location:
    Dorset, UK
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Looking at the t0408c timing sheet I see the Engine + POB are booked on to the Quay Branch stub for servicing at DR 194 rather dropping forward from Jubilee Sidings into the usual metal caged/headshunt area. Will be interesting to see if that's where it actually ends up this afternoon. I think the last steam loco onto the Quay stub was Tangmere for an overnight lay-over back in 2012 (seen as I passed but I didn't have my camera with me that night).
     
  6. johnnew

    johnnew Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2007
    Messages:
    655
    Likes Received:
    124
    Occupation:
    PRO The Stephenson Locomotive Soc.
    Location:
    Dorset, UK
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Sadly just a variant today of the usual. The difference the whole train moved south for servicing. it wasn't split between WCRC stock and the POB.
     
  7. 73082

    73082 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2015
    Messages:
    267
    Likes Received:
    377
    My effort from this morning

     
    johnnew likes this.
  8. GC Met

    GC Met New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    200
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer

    Lord Dowding passes through Moreton then comes to a halt to wait for a service train before gaining access to the single line . The class 57 seems to be doing all the work on departure.
     
    johnnew likes this.
  9. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    21,154
    Likes Received:
    20,947
    Location:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I'm sorry to bring the debate back to an old chestnut but this video clip illustrates exactly why you can't trust what will happen at the back of a train when a diesel is involved.
    The train was not overloaded. 10 plus a diesel is on the heavy side but not under normal running on fairly level track.
    The train was on time and waiting for a path so there was no real urgency to get away.
    Despite all the above, the diesel gives the train a shove to get it going.

    Nothing wrong with that, of course, because it makes it easier for the crew and possibly they wanted to conserve water (although not allowing the loco to lift the valves might have been a better strategy).

    But if you want to experience a steam charter with something approaching authentic performance then clearly these trips are ones to avoid.
     
  10. JS Rail Videos

    JS Rail Videos New Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2016
    Messages:
    105
    Likes Received:
    112
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Portsmouth
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    My short offering from this morning, with 34052 passing through Swanwick.

    Enjoy!

     
  11. johnnew

    johnnew Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2007
    Messages:
    655
    Likes Received:
    124
    Occupation:
    PRO The Stephenson Locomotive Soc.
    Location:
    Dorset, UK
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Was it waiting for a path or held because it was late? Later arrival than the booked 12:35 into Weymouth suggests it should have gone first and crossed that 444 at Dorchester not been held waiting for it at Moreton. The 57 aiding a get away to catch up on time.

    Irrespective the WC and the 57 both looked good in the sun at Weymouth.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  12. Rumpole

    Rumpole Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2005
    Messages:
    2,569
    Likes Received:
    798
    Occupation:
    Tea-Maker
    Location:
    34105
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    There may have been another reason for the diesel being so heavily involved, such as a need to conserve fuel...
     
  13. GC Met

    GC Met New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    200
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I think there was a cock up on the timing front as 34046 was due to pass Moreton at 12.16 and the service train 12.18 which is impossible as they would have met each other on the single line , both were on time so 34046 had to wait until the line was clear .
     
    johnnew likes this.
  14. Paul42

    Paul42 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    5,927
    Likes Received:
    3,864
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    East Grinstead
    There was no water tanker at Weymouth when we arrived. The run from Moreton onwards was subdued and we kept losing time.
     
  15. Johnb

    Johnb Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2014
    Messages:
    14,429
    Likes Received:
    16,597
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired, best job I've ever had
    Location:
    Buckinghamshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    How can a 57 look good?
     
  16. Mogul

    Mogul Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2016
    Messages:
    324
    Likes Received:
    687
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dorset
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    If you want authentic then you should have had a loco change at Bournemouth shed with a freshly coaled and watered loco and crew.
     
  17. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Messages:
    8,136
    Likes Received:
    5,216
    I was on UKRT's The Andover Fist, which passed The Royal Wessex at Northam when it was (presumably) taking water. A Bells and Two Tones tanker then met us in the Eastern Docks to replenish our train's water supplies. If it was the same one that was due to meet The Royal Wessex at Weymouth that might explain a delay on arrival.
     
  18. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2007
    Messages:
    35,153
    Likes Received:
    20,800
    Occupation:
    Training moles
    Location:
    The back of beyond
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    What's wrong with a Class 57? I must admit I'm surprised that there weren't gauging issues. :)

    Class57.jpg
     
  19. A1X

    A1X Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2011
    Messages:
    1,163
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Occupation:
    Insurance
    Location:
    Good Old Sussex by the Sea
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
  20. alts1985

    alts1985 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2007
    Messages:
    1,827
    Likes Received:
    596
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Store Manager for the Co-operative Group
    Location:
    Stevenage
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer

Share This Page